John W. Loftus said:As usual, Loftus has to jump into a discussion he knows nothing about and broadcast his ignorance--in disconnected and unintelligible sentences, that is.
Jay Adams was the pioneer back to Biblical counseling. Adams was to counseling like Luther was to the Reformation.
Ha Ha. You're kidding right?
Wow. You really are off the wall.
All truth is God's truth, silly. Sheesh. It has to be if God exists.
You might as well ignore all of the findings of linguistics and just say language developed at the Tower of Babel debacle.
That's right. Ignore all other knowledge. Trust an ancient book written by superstitious people. Beat your children. Tell suicidal people they are right, life is depressing and try to convert them (if you don't then they go away even more depressed--that's Jay's advice ya know).
6/20/2007 8:38 PM
I find Loftus' comment a bit confusing. First of all, he didn't quote me in context, because my next statement read, "But like Luther, he would need other reformers to come along and help refine and apply the progress that he had made. Steve has written a critical review of Adams in the past. Personally, I have found many of Adams’ works helpful. You just need to weed out some of his more hyperbolic or simplistic statements. But generally, I find guys like Welch or Powlison more helpful."
Secondly, why is Loftus asking if I am kidding? Calling Adams the pioneer back to Biblical counseling is, at least in Loftus' mind, not the same thing as calling him an effective counselor. Does Loftus disagree that Adams at least attempted to derive his counseling methods from Scripture? Whether or not those methods were correct is a separate issue.
But, like most of the subjects he took at seminary, Loftus has only learned enough in this category to misunderstand and misrepresent it.
However, let's turn the tables on Loftus. Let's ignore "an ancient book written by superstitious people" and become informed by "all other knowledge." John: your friend confides in you and confesses his suicidal thoughts. What are you going to tell him? What hope do you have to offer him?