Some Arminian epologists have been using 1 John 2:16 to argue that in no sense can the origination of a sinful action be determined by God. That is because John says those things don't come "from" the father. Now, apart from the surprising fact---not only to me, but to John as well!--that I never thought John was entering into a discussion on moral responsibility and 21st century discussions about origination, this begs the question because determinists want to say that there is an origination that is morally relevant for ascriptions of blame. So the determinist can read 1 John 2:16 (granting the eisogesis for a moment) and agree that sinful actions don't originate from the father in the morally relevant sense to ascribe moral culpability. Determinists think all people understand that there's a sense that lightning is the cause of a fire, even if the lightning didn't create itself ex nihilo. We ascribe the "blame" to the lightning, even if we recognize that it originated from past causal laws and the actual state of the world. But not only that, commentators recognize that John means that those actions are not characterized by a godly life (e.g., Yarbrough, 1-3 John, BECNT). John's speaking of what characterizes actions, they are either from the father or from the world.
However, lets leave this alone for a moment. Sticking with the Arminian eisogesis, let's see how Arminianism leads to determinism. So, for example, we can read what John says here:
John 15:5
"I am the vine; you are the branches. If a man remains in me and I in him, he will bear much fruit; apart from me you can do nothing.
And there you have it. What's sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander. The Bible teaches that God is the ultimate originator of every action. If he were not, we would be "unable" to do anything (and we all know how Arminians read universal language).
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Thursday, May 27, 2010
Unforgiven
slw, on May 27, 2010 at 8:00 pm Said: The Bible makes it quite clear that God is, in fact, not the author, promoter, inciter, or anything other than the judge of sin. Therefore, Calvinism is an unbiblical system, and not true.
http://arminianperspectives.wordpress.com/2010/05/19/fallacies-of-calvinist-apologetics-fallacy-8-calvinism-doesnt-charge-god-with-the-authorship-of-sin/#comment-4693
Here's one unfortunate conclusion we can draw from the above:
http://arminianperspectives.wordpress.com/2010/05/19/fallacies-of-calvinist-apologetics-fallacy-8-calvinism-doesnt-charge-god-with-the-authorship-of-sin/#comment-4693
Here's one unfortunate conclusion we can draw from the above:
- Therefore, God is not the forgiver of sin.
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