Calvinist's often say the objections in Romans 9 don't make sense unless Paul is talking about unconditional election on individuals to salvation. But Steve Hays provides some decent examples of why they still make sense if Paul is talking about God's plan to save by grace (rather than works or nationality). (link) Romans 9 is about God's sovereignty , one way or another.
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But there's nothing in my post, which he links to, to justify his inference.
Steve,
ReplyDeleteThere was plenty of relivant complaints in that post but here's one statement I found most on point:
"Perhaps the Arminian will say sinners must believe in Jesus’ atonement. If so, why does a loving God make that a prerequisite for avoiding hell? Why can’t he just forgive the redeemed, whether or not they love him back?"
This is a complaint against God's plan of salvation.
God be with you,
Dan
It's not a complaint about God's plan of salvation, per se, but a complaint generated by tensions within Arminian theology.
ReplyDeleteTypically, the Calvinist objection that "the Romans 9 Objection doesn't make sense, per Arminianism" is framed as an internal critique of Arminianism.
ReplyDeleteGod be with you,
Dan
Which is what I did.
ReplyDeleteNot when you said "It's not a complaint about God's plan of salvation".
ReplyDeleteGod be with you,
Dan
Here's a novel idea, Dan: why don't you actually try to present something that resembles an argument, rather than posting cryptic one-liners?
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