An anonymous commenter has been leaving some apt observations over at helmet's blog:
"If God is omnipotent he doesn't need any evil and can hinder it."
Since you admitted that there are exceptions to this (i.e., needing the evil murder of the Father's Son to save sinners, which was good from evil), then this premise, as you admit, is, strictly speaking, false. Please rewrite your argument so that it is not one which you admit is unsound. Thank you.
July 29, 2009 12:51 PM
"If God is love then he doesn't want any evil."
This is unclear to me. God is love. He "wanted" the murder of his Son, which was evil, therefore, God is love and can "want" evil. Please rewrite your argument so that it is not unsound.
July 29, 2009 12:55 PM
A redeemed world is better than an unredeemed world. Therefore, God "needed" evil to bring about the better world.
July 29, 2009 12:59 PM
"Jesus said: "They will all be taught by God. Everyone who has heard and learned from the Father comes to me" (John 6,45). Those who have been taught by God will come to Christ's wedding banquet and not be cast out!"
This is universalism. If all are taught by God, and all taught by God will be in heaven, then none are in hell. Universalism is easysolutionism.
July 29, 2009 1:03 PM
A God who can bring good out of evil is more powerful than a God who cannot. Bringing evil out of good is actually a display of omnipotence. God shows us how omnipotent he is by bringing good out of evil. By turning our intuitions and expectations on their head. God doesn't like easysolutionism, so he brings good out of evil. Out of situations which we think there is no way a good could result. Please rewrite your argument so that it does not undermine omnipotence. Thank you.
July 29, 2009 6:26 PM
God is love.
God wants a world where greatest love is instantiated.
There is no greater love than a God-man laying down his life to save his friends.
Needing salvation implies needing to be saved from something.
God wanted a world where man needed to be saved from something so that a world that was greater in love could result.
The only thing man needs to be saved from is sin.
God wanted a world with sin.
God needed sin to bring about the most loving world.
Please rewrite your argument as to conceed that you are now a Calvinist. Thank you.
July 29, 2009 6:32 PM