Showing posts with label The Crusades. Show all posts
Showing posts with label The Crusades. Show all posts

Sunday, July 14, 2019

Were the Crusades justified?

On Facebook I responded to two critics of the Crusades:

Actually, I think the First Crusade was justified, to repel Muslim military invasion. However, the Crusades quickly went off the rails, and were ruthlessly conducted.

i) Although Urban II called upon the Franks to wage a counteroffensive against Muslim aggression, it's not as if "the church" led the military campaign. The pope, cardinals, bishops, and priests weren't combatants, although there was a military order of monks (Templars). 

All Urban II could do was urge the "civil ruling authorities" to repel Muslim invasion. Are you saying religious leaders should never give civilian leaders advice?

ii) Muslims were killing and enslaving Catholics. Didn't a medieval pope have a right to urge civilian authorities to protect Catholics? I'm not Catholic, but I'm just discussing the issue in terms of how the table was set in the middle ages.

iii) Where's the line between "the church" and civilians? Almost all civilians in the Western Roman empire were Catholic. 

iv) There is a tradition the men of the cloth should never take up arms. Do you agree with that? If a violent man storms into a Sunday school and threatens to kill the children, doesn't the pastor have duty to prevent a massacre by using lethal force, if necessary, to ward off the assailant? 

v) The appeal to Rom 13 is fallacious. To say civil authorities have a role in military action doesn't say anything about the role of the church one way or the other.

vi) There are multiple justifications given for the Crusades. We don't have to accept the justifications offered by Urban II to say the Crusades were justifiable in principle as an act of self-defense. We're not bound by Urban II's rationale. We can have independent reasons for believing it was necessary to repel Muslim military aggression.

vii) I agree with your larger point that Europeans make a basic mistake when they treat Roman Catholicism as their default representative of Christianity.

Thursday, February 12, 2015

Urban II

Since Obama has dusted off the chestnut of the Crusades, here's the primary source that got the ball rolling:

http://legacy.fordham.edu/halsall/source/urban2-5vers.html

Saturday, August 09, 2014

Islam on the march

http://answering-islam.org/Authors/Arlandson/crusades_timeline.htm

Roman crusading “fossilized Islam into a fanatic posture”

This is a follow-up to my blog post this morning, “Historical Roman Catholicism is the cradle, enabler, and teacher of radical Islam today”.

The question came up in the comments, “But which historians move from this fact [that Islam was born out of a mutant understanding of mutant Christianity] to your conclusion? Does anyone else argue that [the Roman Church] was a "significant" "enabling cause" of radical Islam?”