Sunday, July 17, 2005

John Robbins: man or myth?

Vincent Cheung has posted an op-ed by John Robbins about Cornelius Van Til. Before commenting on his opinion piece, we need to introduce a rather large caveat. You see, Mr. Robbins has a pretty unusual theory of knowledge. In his “An Introduction to Gordon Clark,” he says the following:

<< There are three sorts of cognitive states: knowledge, opinion, and ignorance. Ignorance is simply the lack of ideas. Complete ignorance is the state of mind that empiricists say we are born with: We are all born with blank minds, tabula rasa, to use John Locke’s phrase. (Incidentally, a tabula rasa mind – a blank mind – is an impossibility. A consciousness conscious of nothing is a contradiction in terms. Empiricism rests on a contradiction.) At the other extreme from ignorance is knowledge. Knowledge is not simply possessing thoughts or ideas, as some think. Knowledge is possessing true ideas and knowing them to be true. Knowledge is, by definition, knowledge of the truth. We do not say that a person "knows" that 2 plus 2 is 5. We may say he thinks it, but he does not know it. It would be better to say that he opines it.

Now, most of what we colloquially call knowledge is actually opinion: We "know" that we are in Pennsylvania; we "know" that Clinton – either Bill or Hillary – is President of the United States, and so forth. Opinions can be true or false; we just don’t know which. History, except for revealed history, is opinion. Science is opinion. Archaeology is opinion. John Calvin said, "I call that knowledge, not what is innate in man, nor what is by diligence acquired, but what is revealed to us in the Law and the Prophets." Knowledge is true opinion with an account of its truth.

It may very well be that William Clinton is President of the United States, but I do not know how to prove it, nor, I suspect, do you. In truth, I do not know that he is President, I opine it. >>

So, as we read his op-ed about CVT, we need to keep this caveat front-and-center, and put a mental asterisk by every indicative claim that is not deducible from Scripture.

We can begin with the attribution and copyright:

<<
By John W. Robbins
© The Trinity Foundation
>>

The op-ed is attributed to a certain John W. Robbins. Of course, if we are to take him at his word, then we can’t take him at his word, because this claim is not an object of knowledge. It is merely a piece of opinion.

Likewise, the copyright is sheer opinion. Indeed, it’s rather odd that the Trinity Foundation would bother to copyright its materials when Robbins’* theory of knowledge demotes the legal rules of evidence to one man’s dubious opinion over another’s. If his epistemology is sound, then how are intellectual property rights actionable?

After all, if Robbins’ opinion that someone has plagiarized his work falls short of knowledge, if his opinion isn’t demonstrably true, then what would count as the preponderance of evidence?

Indeed, this raises grave ethical questions. Isn’t Mr. Cheung in violation of the 9th commandment when he attributes this op-ed to Mr. Robbins? Cheung is passing along information which, by his own lights, he doesn’t know to be true, and cannot know to be true.

With these preliminaries out of the way, let us comment on a few of the claims made by Robbins* in his opinion piece:

<< Professor Van Til is the object of fierce loyalty and reverence by many of his students…They have been enthralled by the myth that surrounds the tall and handsome professor of theology…Hero worship is a prominent characteristic of many of Van Til’s followers, and the ordinary Christian is both baffled and embarrassed by the sounds and the spectacle of bowing and scraping that occur in certain circles. >>

Keep in mind that, by his own admission, Robbins* doesn’t know what he’s talking about. Robbins* is only opining about the existence of a tall* and handsome* professor* by the name of Cornelius Van Til* and his students* or followers*.

Oh, and while we’re on the subject of hero worship, what about the “total lack of critical discussion” of Gordon Clark’s* distinctive ideas by Robbins* and Cheung* and other Clarkians?

I’d agree, though, that hero worship can be a problem, but it’s a short-lived problem. It dies out once the students and immediate disciples of the Master die out. After he is gone, and those who knew him are gone, the charismatic spell is broken.

<< Van Til’s prose is frequently unintelligible. >>

Notice that Robbins* is opining once again. Speaking for myself, I don’t find Van Til’s prose to be unintelligible.

One reason some readers find CVT hard to understand is that his vocabulary is a hangover from the days of British idealism—a philosophical school which has come and gone.

Yet that’s true of any thinker from the past. If you hope to understand Thomism, you need to bone up on Aristotelian and Scholastic nomenclature. If you hope to understand Rahner, you have to bone up on Kant and Hegel and Heidegger.

<< In an interview in Christianity Today in 1977, Van Til made the following statements, all in the same paragraph. Compare his third sentence with his sixth, and you will get some idea why understanding him is very difficult: “My concern is that the demand for non-contradiction when carried to its logical conclusion reduces God’s truth to man’s truth. It is unscriptural to think of man as autonomous. The common ground we have with the unbeliever is our knowledge of God, and I refer repeatedly to Romans 1:19. All people unavoidably know God by hating God. After that they need to have true knowledge restored to them in the second Adam. I deny common ground with the natural man, dead in trespasses and sins, who follows the god of this world”(Christianity Today, December 30, 1977, 22). In the third sentence he says, “The common ground we have with the unbeliever is our knowledge of God….” In the sixth sentence he says, “I deny common ground with the natural man….” Which is it? Or is the unbeliever not a natural man, and the natural man not an unbeliever? Do we have common ground with the natural man, the unbeliever, or don’t we? Or am I asking a foolish question based on mere human logic? >>

Yes, Robbins* is asking a foolish question. To begin with, a magazine interview is hardly the sort of forum in which you’d expect a complex thinker to throw in a lot of codicils and fine-spun distinctions.

In addition, CVT was hardly at the top of his game by the time he gave that interview. He suffered from dementia in his declining years.

At the same time, if you’ve done much reading in CVT, it is easy to reconcile these statements. On the one hand, CVT maintained that, owing to common grace, there was a measure of common ground between the believer and unbeliever.

On the other hand, he also held that there was very little common ground between believer and unbeliever when the unbeliever was an epistemically self-conscious unbeliever. And Van Til’s writing was generally directed against secular philosophers and liberal Bible scholars.

<< In the first sentence, what does “reduces God’s truth to man’s truth” mean? It certainly sounds bad, but does it mean anything? >>

What it means, as I understand CVT, is that fallen man is evasive. If you’re guilty, the truth is your enemy. So you redefine the truth to excuse your sin.

After citing some of “Van Til’s endorsements of the theistic proofs that have appeared in his published writings,” Robbins* goes on to say the following:

<< On the other hand, Van Til also makes statements such as this: “Of course Reformed believers do not seek to prove the existence of their God. To seek to prove or to disprove the existence of this God would be to seek to deny him. To seek to prove or disprove this God presupposes that man can identify himself and discover facts in relation to laws in the universe without reference to God. A God whose existence is ‘proved’ is not the God of Scripture.” He simultaneously maintains that “Reformed believers do not seek to prove the existence of their God” and that “the Reformed apologist maintains that there is an absolutely valid argument for the existence of God.”

The dogmatic assertion that the existence of God both can and cannot be proved places Van Til in his own school of apologetics. >>

All this proves is that Robbins* is a very inept reader. The key qualifying phrase is: “without reference to God.”

15 comments:

  1. Careful, Steve, or you'll make Robbin's list of heretics!

    Mark

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  2. Since on Robbins' epistemology he cannot know that he is a male, he therefore cannot know that he should be in a position of authority over men (with all his teaching, that is). So, Robbins can't know that he should ever preach or even have the attitude he has towards other men. Also, how can he proclaim others as heretics? Do women have the authority to do this? Also, why does he mention that Clark was an ordained minister? He should be critical and say that there is a possibility that it was a "Florence" and not a "Gordon" Clark that was ordained. So, how do they even *know* they shoudl ordain anyone? Is ordination more opinion? When Robbins and his wife have a dispute, and Robbins puts his foot down as the final decision maker, couldn't his wife say, "how do you *know* you're the head of this household??"

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  3. P.S. I wrote some rants on Robbins (and others related) a while back:

    http://presstheantithesis.blogspot.com/2005/05/someone-needs-his-mouth-washed-out.html

    http://presstheantithesis.blogspot.com/2005/06/whats-sauce-for-goose-is-sauce-for.html

    http://presstheantithesis.blogspot.com/2005/05/root-of-problem-with-auburn-avenue.html

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  4. Robbins is also of the "opinion" that CS Lewis is in hell (from a paper he actually presented at the 2003 Annual ETS meeting):

    http://www.trinityfoundation.org/journal.php?id=103

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  5. It's true that Lewis had a defective view of Scripture, as well as a defective view of salvation.

    On the other hand, Lewis was not your standard issue liberal. For example, he believed in the Incarnation, Virgin Birth, and Resurrection--as well as the Trinity and other fixtures of "mere" Christianity.

    I think allowance needs to be made for the fact that Lewis was a layman, as well as the further fact that the religious options for an Englishman of his generation were less than stellar.

    It is easy for us to be to the right of Lewis, but he was to the right of the religious establishment--not to mention the hallowed halls of academe (Oxford; Cambridge).

    On balance, I'd give Lewis the benefit of the doubt. But he's not a sound spiritual guide.

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  6. Short answer: I think that Robbins has a valid point to make, but he's the wrong man to make it, he's making the right point the wrong way, and he's chosen the wrong man to illustrate his point. But other than that, it's a swell argument! :-)

    As far as who is damned, when it comes to individuals, I hesitate to venture an opinion except in more extreme cases.

    Lewis has a rather low view of Scripture. He holds to a pre-Reformation soteriology, which has affinities with the Greek Orthodox concept of theosis.

    Since Lewis was a Medievalist, I assume he picked up his soteriology from his reading of the church fathers.

    On the other hand, he believed in miracles. He believed in the ancient creeds. He was prepared to sacrifice his academic reputation in defense of the faith. This is not the way a liberal typically behaves.

    Also, his Grief Observed, while intemperate in parts, strikes me as an expression of authentic faith under extreme duress.

    His theology leaves much to be desired, but his religious environment was pretty poor soil in which to bloom, and under the circumstances, it seems to me that he was the genuine article.

    BTW, this comes through in his own powers of spiritual discrimination. See how he is goes about distinguishing between the superficial piety of Addison and the deeper, more recalcitrant piety of Swift. Literary Essays, 159.

    To me, this reflects the spiritual discernment of an insider, not an outsider.

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  7. BTW, Robbins is in a poor position to throw stones and consign anyone to hell. Following Clark, he defines saving faith in Sandemanian fashion as dry intellectual assent, devoid of emotional resonance. This does not qualify, in traditional Reformed theology, as a credible profession of faith. Packer and Lloyd-Jones have both written on the grave error.

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  9. 1. Christian blogging is one way of reaching the lost.

    2. We have a number of moral and spiritual priorities to juggle, depending on the number of prior obligations we assume, such as the care of family members, as well as friends and coworkers.

    3. We don't all have the same calling in life. That's why the church is like a body with different organs and members. Not everyone's vocation is full-time Christian ministry.

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  11. 1. Back when I was younger and more energetic, I used to do street ministry and jail ministry. And the younger generation is welcome to take up where I left off.

    2. Christian blogging, like mass evangelism, is a one-to-many medium. You can reach more people this way. It's more efficient. And it's a way of equipping Christian workers.

    3. Saving the lost does not trump our "worldly" responsibility. If you want to do soul-winning full-time, don't get married and have kids. But since, according to Scripture, you do have a right to marry and have kids, and since, indeed, it would be imprudent for most of us to ignore these primal drives, that's a God-honoring life-style--and a very time-consuming one as well.

    4. BTW, having kids and raising them in a Christian home is one way of advancing the kingdom. And some recreational activities are also ways of befriending unbelievers.

    5. Many evangelical churches and parachurch ministries are involved in overseas mission and prison ministry and personal witnessing and friendship evangelism and every-member evangelism.

    6. Certainly it's possible to assume too little responsibility for the fate of the lost. It's also possible to assume too much responsibility for the fate of the lost. It's not my fault that they are lost. It's not my fault that they resist the gospel. I can only do what I can do. Ultimately, this is God's world, not mind. He's running the show, not me.

    7. By the same token, I have a limited responsibility for how other Christians spend their time. That is not under my control. So it's not something for me to fret over. They are answerable to God, not to me. I'm not their father-figure.

    8. The faithful few are just that--few. It's always been that way. Those who need to hear don't listen; those who listen don't need to hear.

    9. BTW, there is more to life than soul-winning. Why did Jesus go to the marriage of Cana when he could have been out on the sawdust trail saving sinners?

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  12. PP,

    In answer to your question (and from my perspective), although there are aspects of Lewis' theology that I find problematic (and I would consider some of those areas to be rather substantial) - I have, nevertheless, always considered him to be a Christian who has made some important intellectual contributions to the church.

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  14. Every time I see the 9th commandment raised it is a red flag that the writer is a theonomist. Looks like theonomists have no affection for John W. Robbins. The point of Robbins' theory of knowledge is that we only "know" science, etc., on the basis of someone else's authority or "opinion."

    Charlie

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  15. Acknowledgment to the time scale dynamics with respect to the urgency of Romans 10:14 contrasted with the natural tendency to slow motion evangelism. Funny how I'm commenting in 2016 on posts from 2005. Every time an unbeliever I know dies and I hadn't witnessed to them, what excuse to I have... is their blood on my hands? Perhaps it is analogous to people asleep in a burning house and we pass by without trying to wake them up, and that should motivate us, but indeed street preaching (or phone call or email saying, "hi how have you been?... you need to repent and believe the gospel!" is impractical and we are called to be as wise as serpents and harmless as doves etc. Once I reunited with a high school friend on Facebook and witnessed to him and it appeared to be instrumental in the Spirit's awesome work, and then the guy died shortly after that, wow. Not to be hypercalvinist but God's got it all covered. I pray that none of us will miss any opportunity to herald the gospel. I've been rationalizing/fantasizing about writing a book that all the people who have known me will read.
    I read somewhere that C.S. Lewis referred to Matthew 24:34 as the most embarrassing verse in the Bible, so he wasn't up on preterism (which is no way "consistent" throughout the NT).
    BTW John Robbins passed away in 2008 as I recall.
    Enjoyed this thread, thanks.

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