Wednesday, March 14, 2012

Resources on transcendental theism

http://www.thirdmill.org/files/english/html/pt/PT.h.Frame.Presupp.Apol.1.html 

http://www.thirdmill.org/files/english/html/pt/PT.h.Frame.Presupp.Apol.2.html  


http://www.frame-poythress.org/frame_articles/2005Transcendental.htm


http://www.vantil.info/articles/vtfem.html


http://www.proginosko.com/docs/Frame_Festschrift_Essay.pdf
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  1. Mathetes3/14/2012 5:09 PM

    Hello Steve,

    Other than Bahnsen/Stein, do you know of any good presupp debates that I could check out?

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  2. steve3/14/2012 5:14 PM

    http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/michael_martin/martin-frame/

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  3. ANNOYED PINOY3/15/2012 12:24 PM

    Here are three classic debates between presuppositionalists and atheists.

    Paul Manata (Van Tillian presuppositionalist) vs. Derek Sansone. Paul's first public debate.

    audio.northcitychurch.com/Manata_Sansone_Debate.html

    or

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmZbAkMl5fQ

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    Paul Manata vs. Dan Barker

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tdReme5MFc

    I've listened to many of Barker's debates. This is first time, in my opinion and experience that Barker lost a debate (at least up to that point). Paul DEMOLISHED Barker.

    Paul's views on VanTillian apologetics have changed since these debates. The top two apologetical students of Van Til were John Frame and Greg Bahnsen. Bahnsen and Frame were friends till Bahnsen's death even though they had some disagreements on apologetics. Since these debates I believe Paul moved away from some of Bahnsen's views and toward John Frame's views. Though, this description is probably an over-simplification.

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    Vincent Cheung (modified Clarkian Axiomatic presuppositionalist) vs. Derek Sansone

    http://www.vincentcheung.com/biblical-rationalism-vs-psycho-assertionism/

    There are serious weakness in Cheung's apologetical method. However, there are some things one can learn from it.

    Here's a link to refutations of Cheung's views:

    http://www.proginosko.com/aquascum/

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    Other debates between presuppositionalists and atheists as well believers in other religions can be found at other websites like:

    http://www.sermonaudio.com


    The Narrow Mind podcasts. Paul is a frequent guest.

    http://tnma.blogspot.com/

    http://unchainedradio.com/

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  4. ANNOYED PINOY3/15/2012 12:31 PM

    Here's the link that works

    http://audio.northcitychurch.com/Manata_Sansone_Debate.html

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  5. ANNOYED PINOY3/15/2012 4:10 PM

    Paul Manata and atheist John Loftus mini-"debate" on The Narrow Mind

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHCVKud9wXs

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