This carries over from another post. That exchange has
outgrown the combox.
Turretinfan:
“As to (xiii)(c), what makes you think that a wife has greater rights than a slave?”
i) A wife has a higher social status than a slave. A slave
enjoyed certain protections, but his condition was essentially punitive. In the
case of a Hebrew slave, he was a debtor.
By contrast, marriage confers certain privileges (as well as
responsibilities).
ii) In addition, a Jewish wife clearly had a higher social
status than a foreign slave, just as members of the covenant community in
general had rights (and responsibilities) which outsiders didn't.
“Where does the Bible ever speak of a woman divorcing her husband?”
i) That’s misleading. For instance, in Mt 19:3, Jesus talks about
a man divorcing his wife because that’s how the question was phrased.
ii) In addition, the grounds for divorce (infidelity) would
be applicable to husband and wife alike inasmuch as you can have faithful wives
of faithless husbands as well as faithless wives of faithful husbands.
iii) In 1 Cor 7:15, Paul treats the grounds for divorce
(desertion) as gender neutral.
“i) Why do you think that greater social status is indicative of greater rights?”
Because there’s a typical correlation between social ranking
and social prerogatives.
Moreover, greater power or authority confers greater
responsibility, and vice versa.
“ii) Do you acknowledge that men (other things like wealth and family relation being equal) enjoyed greater social status than women?”
No. In a hierarchical society, upperclass women outrank
lower class men. A queen, queen mother, or noblewoman outranks a slaveboy or
male commoner.
“iii) Isn't comparing a male slave to a wife an apples to oranges comparison, rather than a lesser to greater comparison?”
To the contrary, Scripture classifies marriage as a type of
“bond” service (cf. Rom 7:2; 1 Cor 7:15,39). Both husband and wife were bound
to each other by marriage. So that’s analogous to slavery, without the
pejorative connotations of slavery.
“i) The question isn't misleading (more on that below). Matthew 19:3 isn't the only passage talking about divorce. So, it's irrelevant whether one passage or another happens to deal with the issue I've identified.”
That raises several issues:
a) To begin with, the complementarian position is that
masculine nouns and pronouns can include women. That follows both from the
conventions grammatical gender and generic masculine usage as well as the
theological fact that men can function in a representative capacity for women.
For instance, the soteriological and eschatological promises
(or threats) of Scripture are often addressed to male referents, yet they
implicitly include women. Women as well as men can be saved or damned.
Of course, masculine language is sometimes used to single
out males. But there’s no presumption to that effect. Rather, that’s
context-dependent.
b) I don’t know how far you wish to extend the analysis. In
principle, we could run through all the Biblical references to divorce. By my
reckoning, that would cover:
Deut 24:1-4 (where a man sues for divorce)
Deut 22:13-19 (where a husband falsely accuses his wife of
adultery)
Exod 22:16-17, par. Deut 22:28-29 (a shotgun wedding)
Ezra 9-10 (Jewish men divorcing pagan wives)
Mal 2:10-16 (Jewish men divorcing Jewish wives to marry
pagans)
Mt 5:31-32; 19:3-12; par. Mk 10:2-12; Lk 16:18
I already discussed Mt 19. Mt 5:31 alludes to Deut 24. The
Synoptic parallels don’t contribute anything distinctive to the analysis.
The OT passages involve descriptive case studies where men
instigate a divorce, or contract an illicit marriage (which must be dissolved),
or indulge in sexual misconduct which commits them to marriage without recourse
to divorce. Men are singled out as the instigators because that’s a factual
description of male misconduct, not a normative statement unilateral male
prerogatives. Indeed, in these passages, men are generally singled out as
offenders rather than exemplars. Male initiative is descriptive and culpable rather
than normative.
Which is not to deny that Scripture assigns certain
unilateral prerogatives to men, but these are the wrong passages to find
support for that principle.
“ii) "Infidelity" in these kinds of discussions is often a euphemism for adultery. I assume you're using it that way.”
I’m not using that as a euphemism for adultery.
a) To begin with, porneia has a wider semantic range than
moichea (the specific term for “adultery”). Porneia means “unlawful sexual
intercourse: prostitution, unchastity, fornication” (BDAG 854a).
So it’s possible that Matthew deliberately chooses a more
generic term to include a wider range of sexual misconduct as grounds for
divorce.
b) It’s also possible that Matthew employs a more generic
term because his wording is modeled on the looser usage of Deut 24:1.
“And, of course, both men and women can be guilty of adultery. But that wasn't the question.”
Just because you don’t think that’s relevant doesn’t mean I
don’t think that’s relevant. Scripture doesn’t have a double standard for
punishing sin. And, if anything, the fact that husbands have more inherent
authority than wives would make husbands more culpable, not less so. More
liable to sanctions, not less so. Their gender doesn't immunize them from the
consequences of their misconduct.
“In 1 Corinthians 7 Paul addresses the issue of the attempted desertion of a believing spouse by an unbelieving spouse. You are right that a kind of gender neutrality is maintained. Neither a Christian man nor a Christian woman is to prevent the desertion of the unbelieving spouse. You should notice, however, that divorce is not mentioned. May I encourage you to re-read the context of the verse you quoted, and you will see the contrast between men divorcing and women leaving.”
The passage is standardly understood as implying the right
of the innocent party to divorce and remarry. For an up-to-date defense of that
interpretation, cf. R. Ciampa & B. Rosner, The First Letter to the
Corinthians (Eerdmans 2010), 302ff.
Catholics routinely reject the “Pauline Privilege” because
their sect commits them to the indissolubility of marriage, regardless
of what Scripture says.
