Wednesday, October 21, 2009

Finding a Good God in an Evil World

I) William Dembski has written a new book: The End of Christianity: Finding a Good God in an Evil World (B&H 2009).

The book is adorned with a number of glowing blurbs by the likes of John Collins, Stephen Davis, Doug Groothuis, Gary Habermas, Hank Hanegraaff, William Hasker, Josh McDowell, John Warwick Montgomery, J. P. Moreland, and Don Page.

In one respect, these kudos are superfluous. It’s not as if Dembski is a debutante who needs to be introduced to the world. He’s an established figure in Evangelicalism. He has a following. I assume any major book he publishes would already have a preexisting constituency. But that’s a minor point.

More to the point is what some of them actually say. Moreland says it “towers over” the competition in “profundity and quality.” McDowell says it’s “groundbreaking.” Hanegraaff says it “may well prove to be a Copernican breakthrough,” while Montgomery says “Believers have badly needed the kind of compelling case for biblical theodicy provided in Dr Dembski’s new book.”

One of the problems with all this hype is the insinuation that Christian theodicy was in truly dire straits before he came along to save our bacon. You’d think that, up until now, we were utterly dumbfounded in the face of evil.

My own assessment is rather different. Reading his book is like watching a cinematic failure by a great director. Even if the film falls short of the high aims it set for itself, it still has memorable moments which a more successful film by a lesser director wouldn’t approach. A flawed masterpiece contains touches of greatness you won’t find in a flawless, but pedestrian piece of work.

Likewise, Dembski’s new book is one of those productions in which the parts are greater than the whole. Odd lapses of judgment punctuated by flashes of insight.

I also have a quibble with the subtitle: the world we inhabit is not an evil world. Rather, we inhabit a fallen world. Our world contains a lot of evil, but it’s also a world that contains a lot of common grace and special grace. So it’s deeply misleading to say our world is evil. There is both good and evil. Moreover, the good will out.

II) There are different ways of evaluating a work like this. One criterion is whether he succeeded in solving the problem he posed for himself. In that respect, I think Dembski’s book is only a partial success. I’ll have more to say about that shortly.

But perhaps a more fundamental issue is whether he’s giving us the right answers to the wrong questions. I just don’t see the problem of natural evil the way he does. Apparently he regards that problem as either evident or even self-evident. So he goes straight to the next step. But to me he’s expending a lot of ingenuity in solving what is more often than not a pseudoproblem. For example, here’s one way he states the issue:

“But animal death and suffering as it exits now and as it appears to have existed throughout the fossil record bespeak a cruelty and perverseness that only exacerbates the problem of evil” (210n6).

Let’s make some preliminary observations before delving into the various permutations of his position. There are two broad aspects to the problem of natural evil:

a) The problem that natural evil poses to human victims of natural evil.

b) The problem that natural evil poses to subhuman victims natural evil.

These are distinct and separable issues. I don’t think they require the same treatment.

1) Concerning (a):

i) I think that even a sinless world would contain natural “evils.” That’s because I think natural evils are generally natural goods. What makes them “evil” is if they’re evil to you. If they do you harm. They’re only “evil” in the relative sense that if you’re in the wrong place at the wrong time, then they pose a threat to your life or wellbeing. But, in general, many natural “evils” are actually beneficial to the ecosystem. Indeed, essential to the balance of nature as we know it.

I think what the Fall effects is not the existence of natural evil, but a liability to natural evil. It exposes us to dangers which, in a sinless world, we’d be immune to–in one way or another.

There’s a difference between a dangerous world and a world which endangers you and me. A world with mountains and streams is a dangerous world inasmuch as you can fall off a cliff or drown in the river. I think the difference between a pristine world and a fallen world is not so much the presence or absence of natural evils, but whether we are put in harm’s ways. Is the potential for harm actually realized?

ii) I also assume that part of the cultural mandate is to tame the wilderness. We start in a garden, then we extend the garden. Cultivate the wilderness. Domesticate animals. Found towns and cities.

I think God has posed certain natural challenges for us to overcome. We need these raw materials to exercise our God-given creativity.

In a fallen world, that becomes an occupational hazard. But I don’t view the underlying principle as essentially different for an unfallen world.

iii) This is not to deny that some natural evils are second-order evils which reflect our fallenness. Scientists develop treatments for STDs. STDs are a natural punishment for sin. The STDs then adapt by developing a resistant-strain to the conventional treatment. So some natural evils to presuppose the Fall.

iv) And, of course, to the extent that some natural evils are penal sanctions for sin, they require no special justification.

2) Concerning (b):

i) Seems to me the so-called problem of animal pain is greatly overrated. For one thing, surely we need to draw some distinction between higher and lower animals. To say a dog can suffer doesn’t mean a millipede can suffer.

ii) Likewise, it seems to me, from my observation, that animals have a high pain threshold, not to mention a high pain tolerance. Haven’t we all seen veterinarians inject horses and dogs? When the needle goes in, they don’t even flinch.

Likewise, what looks painful may be painless. We know from survivors of shark attacks, bear maulings, and the like, that the victim often goes into shock. He feels nothing at the time.

If he survives, he may be in excruciating pain, but of course, the victim is ordinarily killed and eaten.

iii) It’s demonstrable that predation, parasitism, disease, aging, death, and even extinction serve a natural purpose in the ecosystem. Although we classify natural disasters as natural “evils,” they hardly a gratuitous evil. While I regard human mortality as a result of the fall, I don’t regard subhuman mortality as a result of the fall.

iv) Beyond functionality, I think God has another purpose in this respect. We live in a “sacramental universe.” God has designed the animal kingdom to mimic good and evil. There are “good” animals and “bad” animals. Bestial heroes and villains.

You can see this in Scripture itself, where animals serve as moral and spiritual metaphors. They also symbolize good and evil in world literature, as well as many popular idioms.

3) At a specific level, this is how Dembski frames the problem of natural evil:

“We can imagine a world far more violent than ours in which many more people die annually of natural disasters. Alternatively, we can imagine a world far more halcyon than ours in which no one dies of natural disasters because the whole world is a serene tropical paradise…As suggested earlier, why didn’t God simply place us on a less dangerous planet where earthquakes don’t ravage human life? Or was this not an option for the Creator, and if not, why not?” (30).

On the other hand, he makes statements like this.

“…in the real world, there are no causally isolated events. Everything hangs together with everything else. The slightest change in one thing changes everything…Thus, by a butterfly flapping its wings in Brazil, a hurricane is averted in Miami…The lesson of chaos theory and nonlinear dynamics is that even the slightest physical changes ramify and eventually change the history of the entire world…The slightest change in any event makes everything different (if not immediately, then soon enough). That’s why films like It’s a Wonderful Life, Frequency, and Timecop (in decreasing order of excellence), which chart different possible futures but keep too many features of the world constant, make for entertaining fiction but are completely unrealistic” (139-40).
“The standard possible-worlds semantics for these conditionals (see David Lewis, Counterfactuals) depends on a similarity metric on possible worlds: the counterfactual if A, then B is true if in the worlds closest to ours where A is true B is also true. Such measurements of closeness among possible worlds, however, fail to respect the multidimensionality of similarity–along which dimension(s) do we gauge similarity?” (215n14).

But if imponderables like the butterfly effect and the incommensurability of possible worlds prevent us from being able to say whether one world is better than another, or being able to say whether a merely conceivable world is, in fact, a live possibility, then how can Dembski appeal to some imaginative ideal in we have a tropic paradise devoid of natural evils? Is that actually feasible?

Wouldn’t changing one variable trigger a series of mutual adjustments? You might have to trade down in one respect to trade up in another respect.

4) Likewise, Dembski says:

“All three forms of God’s will seem to be involved in the disordering of creation via natural evil. Genesis 3:17-18 suggests that God actively wills thorns and thistles (which symbolize the material effects of the fall…Vipers, viruses, and vermin seem more appropriately attributed to God’s permissive will, the permission going to Satan. On this view Satan ravages the earth prior to the Fall but is permitted to do so because of his success in tempting the first humans, a temptation that itself required God’s permission” (146).

A couple of problems:

i) It begs the question to say that thorns, thistles, vipers, viruses, and vermin represent natural “disorders.”

ii) Dembski is ascribing an extraordinary degree of power to Satan. Satan becomes a mad scientist or criminal genius with the power to reengineer the natural world. Create vipers, viruses, and vermin in his laboratory. That borders on the radical dualism which he finds so objectionable in Gregory Boyd’s worldview.

5) Moreover, “Biologists have since discovered even nastier critters. I leave to the reader to study the emerald cockroach wasp (which stings the brain of a cockroach twice, first turning it into a zombie and then into a vegetable)…Did God, in making the creation defective on purpose, specifically design such features into the natural world?…One possibility worth exploring is to what extent such instances of perverseness in nature can be explained as a subversion (by Satan? By evolution?) of an originally good design” (149).

A couple of problems:

i) That’s a trick question. To ask if God made the creation “defective” on purpose begs the question of whether natural “evils” like the cockroach wasp represent a design flaw or “subversion” of the natural order.

ii) To describe the “subversion of an originally good design” is ambiguous. Does he merely mean that sin results in certain diseases, genetic defects, &c.? Or does he mean that God had an original plan, as well as a backup plan in case the original plan fell through? Does the fall scuttle God’s original plan? Does God have to “respond” with a fallback plan?

iii) The example of the cockroach is blatantly anthropomorphic. In what sense can a cockroach suffer? What’s its level of awareness? Isn’t this a case in which Dembski is simply projecting himself into the “brain” of a cockroach? Isn’t he, in effect, saying to himself, “If I were a cockroach, I sure wouldn’t want that to happen to me!”

But, of course, if he were a lowly cockroach, he wouldn’t have that imaginative faculty in the first place. Dembski, from his human viewpoint, is implicitly asking himself what it feels like to be a cockroach. But if he were a cockroach, he wouldn’t share the human viewpoint which forms the basis of that empathetic projection. Does a cockroach even have a viewpoint? It’s a complete illusion to think that we can identify with the plight of a cockroach. I’m puzzled by what so many otherwise bright, sophisticated thinkers fall into this trap.

iv) I’d also add that, from the perspective of a human observer, animals seem to be pretty content with their lot in life. Do chipmunks suffer from clinical depression?

6) Furthermore, “The worry now arises whether the ‘genius’ who subverts an original good into a natural evil is God. Theological determinists, who think that every detail of the world is planned and executed by God, counter this worry by simply admitting that any such subversion of the original good must be God’s doing” (150).

That’s a tendentious way of putting it. Calvinists, for one, don’t think God “subverted” his own plan. Rather, the fall was instrumental to a greater good. That was part of the plan all along.

7) Finally, “In the Garden of Eden, the originally intended perfect world borders the Fall-corrupted imperfect world. In the originally intended world, there were no pathogenic microbes and, correspondingly, there is no need for Adam and Eve to have an immune system that wards off these microbes” (153).

i) Once again, this way of putting things borders on open theism. On the one hand, there is what God originally intended. On the other hand, there’s what actually played out-–which falls short of what God originally intended. Did his plan go awry?

ii) It’s true that absent pathogens, there may be no need for an immune system. But what if pathogens are a form of population control for the animal kingdom? And if Adam and Eve needed an immune system of shield them from that potential side-effect, is that a natural evil-–or a natural good?

III) But let’s waive my reservations to the way he’s chosen to frame the problem. Given that framework, is his solution successful? His answer involves the “retroactive” effects of the fall. That, of itself, could be a promising response depending on he defines his terms and develops his thesis. Unfortunately, his treatment suffers from some crippling confusions and equivocations.

1) I’m not clear on what metaphysical machinery underlies his thesis. For example, sometimes he resorts to the language of retrocausation. I don’t know if he’s speaking literally or figuratively. For example, you can use time-travel scenarios to illustrate a point even though you don’t believe in time-travel.

If he’s serious about retrocausation, then, of course, his position is saddled with all the paradoxes of retrocausation. Not only is that self-defeating, but it’s also unnecessary–since I think it’s possible to recast his solution in ways that sidestep the metaphysical baggage.

2) His equivocation may be due to a deeper problem. He speaks as though natural evils are part of a contingency plan after God’s original plan disintegrated on contact.

A more elegant solution would be to say the Fall was a part of God’s original plan, as a means to a higher end. And with that in mind, God frontloaded his creation with natural evils as a proleptic penal consequence of the Fall.

Why he avoids that solution, I don’t know. Perhaps it’s a bit too Calvinistic for his bloodstream, and he’s trying to hit on a mediating solution which strikes the right between Calvinism and neotheism.

3) On a related note, he appears to be torn between deontologism and consequentialism. On the one hand, Dembski seems to reject the possibility of a greater good defense:

“The difficulty of this suggestion, which is made throughout the old-earth creationist literature, is that natural evil becomes simply a tool for furthering God’s ends rather than a consequence of human sin. Old-earth creationism thus opens God to the charge of inflicting pain simply to advance a divine agenda” (79).
“Thus, according to Whorton’s Perfect Purpose Paradigm, God creates a world of suffering not in response to human sin but to accomplish some future end (i.e., ‘the Master’s plan’). But this, again, makes human suffering a means to an end. And even if this end is lofty, we are still being used. Used is used, and there is no way to make this palatable, much less compatible with human dignity. That’s why Kant taught that we must treat fellow human beings not as ends in themselves. And that’s’ why, unless human suffering is permitted by God because we have, in some way, brought it on ourselves. Whorton’s Perfect Purpose Paradigm becomes a cynical manipulation of means to justify otherwise high ends” (79).

But there are some problems with this objection:

i) It takes Kantian deontologism for granted. Where’s the supporting argument?

ii) It fails to distinguish between culpable and inculpable agents. Suppose, all things being equal, that men are entitled to be treated as ends rather than means. So far so good. But what if a man happens to be a criminal or wrongdoer? Is it not possible, in that moral condition, for him to forfeit certain rights and immunities he enjoyed as an innocent man? In that case, it might be permissible to treat him as a means rather than an end. Shouldn’t Dembski at least consider that objection?

iii) It also seems to contradict other statements in which Dembski apparently endorses some version of the greater good defense:

“But why was the Cross necessary at all? If there was a rift between God and humanity, why was suffering–Christ’s suffering on the Cross–the key to healing it? In a fallen world, the only currency of love is suffering. Indeed, the only way to tell how much one person loves another is by what that person is willing to endure for the other. Without the cost incurred by suffering, love among fallen creatures becomes cheap and self-indulgent. Suffering removes the suspicion that the good we do for one another is for ulterior motives, with strings attached, a qui pro quo…Moreover, only such a full demonstration of God’s love enables us to love God with all our heart. The extent to which we can love God depends on the extent to which God has demonstrated his love for us, and that depends on the extent of evil that God has had to absorb, suffer, and overcome on our behalf…But note, for us to love God also depends on our seeing the magnitude of our offense against God and gratefully receiving the forgiveness that God’s suffering, in Christ on the Cross, has made possible. The principle at issue here is stated in Luke 7:47; those who realize that they have been forgiven much love much; those who think that they have only been forgiven little love little” (24).

This [O felix culpa] tradition redresses the Fall by pointing to the great redemption in Christ that the Fall elicits. In that tradition, just because a good outweighs an evil does nothing to make the evil less evil. Yes in the end we will be better off because Jesus saved us from evil rather than because we happened to be descendents of an Adam and Eve who escaped evil by never sinning. But their sin and its consequences must, even in the O felix culpa tradition, be viewed as a tragedy” (30).

But wouldn’t that “manipulate” the situation to “advance a divine agenda”?

4) “What were humans doing before they received the divine image and entered the Garden of Eden?…In the theodicy I’m proposing, these hominids initially lacked the cognitive and moral capacities required to bear the image of God. Then, at the moment they entered the Garden, they received God’s image and became fully human.” (158).

On the one hand, we accept the narrative description insofar as we continue to take the Garden to be a real place in time. On the other hand, we reject the narrative description insofar as we take the process by which they were made Adam and Eve to be unreal unreal. Isn’t that a makeshift explanation?

Why are we still using the Edenic paradigm if we no longer believe the original story? In that event, why keep tweaking the same old paradigm? If we don’t believe the original story, isn’t it time to scrap that paradigm and move one? Start from scratch? Why cling to an obsolete paradigm when you’ve lost faith in the paradigm?

Mind you, Dembski doesn’t seem to be speaking for himself. From what I can tell, he’s basically an old-earth creationist. So he’s pointing out that his theodicy is neutral with respect to the theistic evolutionist/old-earth creationist debate. I wonder, though, why he’s more accommodating to theistic evolution than young-earth creationism. Even if he regards young-earth creationism as mistaken, is this a graver mistake than theistic evolution?

5) “What environment would God have arranged for us if Adam and Eve had not sinned?…In Gen 1, God tells humanity and the other organisms to reproduce and fill the earth. Once the earth is adequately filled with a given type of organism, and supposing organisms of that type do not die, what is the point of continued reproduction? It makes sense to think that a homeostatic mechanism actives when a population has adequately filled an environmental niche, maintaining the stability of population numbers and thus preventing overpopulation” (172).

Even at a purely speculative level, I don’t find this conjecture very plausible.

i) For one thing, there’s more to human sexuality than making babies–although that’s undervalued nowadays. Human sexuality is also a fundamental form of emotional bonding. A way of giving and receiving affection.

ii) Aren’t sex hormones a part of physical maturation? Wouldn’t adolescents in a pristine world still have a sex drive?

iii) On this view, there would be a final, albeit immortal, human generation. The final generation wouldn’t mate or beget. But that would deprive the final generation of the emotional fulfillment which comes from pairing off and having kids.

iv) I can imagine several other scenarios which partially or fully address this hypothetical question:

a) At that point, God might preserve the human sex drive, but render couples infertile.

b) Human beings might colonize the universe.

c) Dembski is also assuming the coexistence of the human race. But perhaps human beings, even immortal ones, could occupy different segments of the timeline–past or future. Even now, there’s some evidence for timeslips. The best-known case (but not the only reported case) involved the celebrated claim of Annie Moberly and Eleanor Jourdain.

d) In a world where everyone is immortal, it’s not as if you have to have all your kids in the first 10 years of marriage. You can space things out. You have time to spare.

IV) “As a consequence, the doctrine of divine omniscience entails a paradox: to know everything, God must know by acquaintance the full measure of human experience and thus must know what it is not to know since not knowing (what we call ‘ignorance’) is a basic feature of human finiteness (19).

Several problems with this claim:

i) That would, indeed, be a paradox, and Dembski states the paradox rather than resolving it. But that’s unsatisfactory in this context. It won’t do to say that in order for God to be omniscient, he must also be ignorant. You can’t say, on the one hand, that knowledge by acquaintance is a necessary condition to render God omniscient, then say, on the other hand, that knowledge by acquaintance imposes a limitation on God’s knowledge. At that point, what does your argument amount to? How does that solve the problem you originally posed for yourself?

ii) There’s another problem with Dembski’s contention. Must God, to be omniscient, experience what it feels like to be a sadist or serial killer or pedophile? If a sadist finds it plesant to torture little children, but God find that pleasant as well? Must he experience whatever the sadist or serial killer or pedophile finds appealing? Know what it’s like to like evil? What it’s like to give into sin? What it’s like to take satisfaction in evil for its own sake?

This would cast God in the role of the criminal profiler who, to get inside the mind of the killer, is slowly seduced by evil. Begins to identify with the killer. Empathize with the killer.

iii) Moreover, if knowledge by acquaintance is a necessary condition of omniscience, then God is not omniscient. The incarnation hardly acquaints God with the “full measure of human experience.” At best, it would only acquaint God with some cultural universals–along with the unique life-experience of one particular individual. But everyone’s life experience is unique. To experience one is not to experience another.

In addition, that would still leave God unacquainted with the experience of the entire subhuman order. To become a man doesn’t acquaint God with the inner experience of a squirrel.

iv) Let’s illustrate the distinction between knowledge by acquaintance and knowledge by description. A color-blind ophthalmologist is the world’s leading authority on color vision. He knows everything there is to know about the physiology of color vision. That’s knowledge by description.

Yet there’s one crucial and elusive bit of information he doesn’t know. He doesn’t know what it’s like to actually see colors. That’s knowledge by acquaintance.

Is this applicable to God? No. The fact that we frequently experience color as a physical sensation doesn’t mean that color is essentially physical. For example, we may dream in color, but we’re not actually seeing sensible objects. The dream is a simulation reality. There’s no external stimulus producing this sensation.

Color is ultimately an abstract universal. God’s exemplary idea of different colors. Different shades of color. The sensible colors we perceive when we see a sunset or rainbow or flower garden is a concrete property instance of God’s insensible idea. God doesn’t have to experience the sensible exemplum to know the insensible exemplar. God doesn’t need to reproduce our finite mode of knowledge to know what we know.

“God’s knowledge includes knowledge of the future. When God becomes man in Jesus Christ, however, he sets aside divine omniscience. The point of God’s becoming man is for God to identify with the whole human experience, and this is not possible if Christ retains all his divine privileges (20).

i) This sounds like the Kenotic heresy. One wonders why a statement like that didn’t raise red flags for a confessional Lutheran like John Warwick Montgomery or a countercult apologist like Hank Hanegraaff or Doug Groothuis.

ii) It also turns on a particular theory of the atonement–Dembski’s disclaimer notwithstanding (cf. 204n5). If you subscribe to penal substitution, then that was not the point of the Incarnation. And penal substitution doesn’t require the Redeemer to “identify with the whole of human experience.”

V) Dembski uses anachronistic answers to prayer (51; 127-28) as a paradigm case of retroactive effects. Depending on how we define our terms, there is nothing wrong with this example. However, we don’t need retrocausation to explain anachronistic answers to prayer. A prayer can affect the past without changing the past. If God foreknew (much less, if he predestined) our prayer, then the answer to can be built into his plan for the world. He doesn’t have to rewrite the plan while the program is running to answer our prayer.

“God is able to anticipate events and human actions by acting in response before they occur” (131).

i) I don’t even know what that’s supposed to mean. Seems backwards to me. Is God is able to anticipate events and human actions by acting in response before they occur? Wouldn’t it make more sense to say that God is able to respond to events and human actions before they occur because he can anticipate their occurrence?

ii) More to the point, why is God “responding” to events before they occur? Are the events inevitable? Is God a first-responder? He can’t prevent it–he can only deal with it, as a fait accompli?

VI) On the one hand, Dembski scornfully rejects open theism, and variants thereof:

“Contemporary strategies for redressing the Fall consistently run aground because they attribute at least some of the evil that humanity suffers to factors other than human guilt. In such approaches, God lets humanity suffer evils of which it is entirely innocent–evils for which it is not responsible and which it therefore does not deserve. For a good God to permit such evils thus presupposes a limitation on God’s power and knowledge. For presumably, if God’s power and knowledge were up to the task, he would be both able and morally obligated, as a matter of justice to prevent evils of which we are innocent from afflicting us. This is why process and openness theologies have become increasingly attractive. They give us a God who means well but is limited in stemming the tide of evil,” ibid. 32.
“Such a God wrings his hands over the world’s evil and, like an ineffectual politician, tries haltingly to make the world a better place. To our hardier theological forebears, this God would have seemed pathetic (to say nothing of heretical). But each age constructs gods in its own image, and in this touchy-feely age, a diminished God who shares our vulnerabilities and weaknesses is all the rage,” ibid. 34.
“Gregory Boyd, a proponent of open theism, has in fact written an entire book on the evils that may, in his view, properly be ascribed to Satan: Satan and the Problem of Evil: Constructing a Trinitarian Warfare Theodicy. In that book, Boyd shifts to Satan the responsibility for natural evil. Yet, in making that shift, Boyd embraces a dualism that Lewis would have rejected. Because open theism contracts the power and knowledge of God, God does not have Satan on a leash as he does in classical theism. Thus, for Boyd, Satan becomes an independent center of evil activity. This is not quite a Manichean dualism, in which good and evil are ontological equals (Satan for Boyd is still a created being). But it’s close. Moreover, it’s not clear how Boyd’s theodicy absolves God of evil since as Satan’s Creator, he must have realized the possibilities of evil inherent in his creation,” ibid. 38-39.

On the other hand, Dembski stakes out a position which seems to be functionally equivalent:

“All things are created twice. There’s a mental or first creation, and a physical or second creation of all things.’ Creation always starts with an idea and ends with a thing. Anything achieved must first be conceived. Creation is thus a process bounded by conception at one end and realization at the other…All this is unproblematic so long as the second creation fulfills the promise of the first. But what if the two creations don’t match up? What if the second creation doesn’t achieve anything like the goal set by the first Creation? God, who is perfect, cannot make mistakes in the first creation. The first creation is creation as a conceptual act and is therefore completely under divine control” (107-08).
“Thus, if divine creation miscarries, it ahs to miscarry at the second creation. But how can a prefect first creation end in failure at the second creation? The short answer, of course, is rebellion of the creature–in a world, the Fall. Rebellion of the creature sabotages the second creation by preventing the first creation from fulfilling its purpose” (108).
“God writes our story and, when we fall, rewrites it…God can rewrite our story while it is being performed and even change the entire backdrop against which it is performed–that includes past, present, and future…Once humanity falls in Genesis 3, God must act to undo the damage.” (110-11).

Doesn’t this make God seem to be a shortsighted Creator who’s having to improvise in light of unforeseen variables or unintended consequences?

On a related note, he says:

“God has to deal with a sin-ridden world and all the messiness that entails. There are no neat solutions for dealing with a fallen world. Even God faces difficult decisions…The problem is that in a fallen world, no decision, when executed, has prefect consequences. A fallen world is a world of costs and benefits. It is a world of tradeoffs and compromise. The challenge for God is to pick the best compromise among competing objectives that procures the greatest good” (173-74).

i) He makes it sounds as though all possible worlds are fallen worlds. God can only choose between one fallen world and another.

ii) He also makes it sound as though tradeoffs only occur in fallen worlds. But it seems to me that cost/benefit considerations apply more broadly. Different possible worlds may exemplify incommensurable goods. A sinless world may be better in one respect, but deficient in another–if it can’t include certain second-order goods which presuppose evil.

VII) Demski has a whole chapter on YEC. And, even beyond that, YEC is a running foil throughout his book. I have two basic problems with his treatment of YEC:

1) If I were defending YEC, I wouldn’t go about it the way he describes it. So his criticisms, even if valid on their own level, are counterarguments to arguments (or specific formulations, thereof) I wouldn’t use in the first place, if I were making a case for YEC.

2) If you’re going to attack a position, then you need to give it the amount of attention it demands to get the job done. Dembski’s attack on YEC is far too cursory.

The proper way for him to do this would be to quote the most astute representatives of YEC (e.g. John Byl, Jonathan Sarfati, Kurt Wise), then offer a sustained critique of their position. This would also have to go beyond stuff they write for popular consumption. It would involve contacting them directly. Posing questions for them to answer.

I don’t see that Dembski has done that. In his acknowledgements, he thanks people like Don Page, Hugh Ross, David Snoke, the ASA list, and so on. But names from the YEC camp are conspicuously missing. There’s no evidence of direct, personal interaction with them. They don’t seem to be his conversation partners or even his sparring partners.

Likewise, he incorporates email communications in his book. But, once again, there’s nothing from the YEC camp.

So I don’t know quite what he’s trying to accomplish. Is he trying to dissuade young-earth-creationists? If so, he can’t very well talk them out of their position unless he does a lot more to engage the argument.

Now I realize that he may not wish to get sidetracked. But if he can’t give YEC the space it requires in this book, the least he could do is to write some lengthy reviews of books and articles by Byl, Sarfati, Wise, &c., and then refer the reader to his reviews for more detail. And his book reviews could also incorporate personal correspondence.

Or he could write a separate article on the subject. He has a website where he posts a lot of his shorter writings.

All in all, I prefer Dembski’s book for some of the side dishes rather than the main course. And I also like some side dishes better than others.

Self-Defeating Skepticism

Here's a recent thread at Stand To Reason on the trustworthiness of the gospels. Notice that the skeptics in the thread show so little knowledge of the subjects they're discussing, as if they haven't done much research. They often raise objections to the Bible that, if they were consistent, they would have to apply to non-Christian historical sources and common human behavior in everyday life. If you're going to object to the reliability of human memory, paraphrasing people, translating what people have said, etc., then your objections reach far beyond the Bible.

Two of the skeptics participating in the thread, Joe and Bino Bolumai, posted on Triablogue in the past. Joe was banned after he lied about his identity, and Bino Bolumai was caught lifting material from an unreliable skeptical web site and presenting that material as if it was his own.

Bored

I recently read a Time article about problems people are having saving for retirement with a 401(k). What I found most significant in the story was what it assumes about the nature of retirement. For example:

Retiree Robert Shively spends his days on the golf course. For many, that would be a dream come true, but not quite in the way Shively does it. The 68-year-old is the cart mechanic at the Niagara Falls Country Club....

Lucantonio, 61, is proud of what he has been able to afford in retirement. He and his wife bought a cabin in New York's hilly Southern Tier. "It's even got ceramic tile in the kitchen," he says. He would like to spend more time there, but like many other former Occidental employees we talked to, he's had to unretire into a new job....

Dennis O'Neil plays the part of a former HR executive well. You can find O'Neil, who left Oxy on disability a few years ago, on a golf course, clad in picture-perfect golden-years attire: a black Izod shirt with white shorts, faux-alligator-skin cleats, Ray-Bans, a gold shamrock hanging from a gold chain on his neck and a black baseball cap. But O'Neil's retirement outlook is growing darker every day. He once made a six-figure salary, but the 63-year-old is fairly certain that his savings won't be able to sustain him for very much longer. He has some $500,000 left in his 401(k) and spends about $75,000 a year. At this rate, he worries he will tap out his retirement savings within the next decade.

Unless, as O'Neil's thinking goes, he can make something happen in the stock market. So he spends much of his day watching CNBC. "Right now, I want to know which area of the economy is going to recover first. Will it be retail? Commodities? Energy?" says O'Neil. Playing the market is probably the wrong thing to do, but he got divorced eight years ago, depleting a good portion of his savings, and his medical bills are likely to go up soon. O'Neil is going blind from histoplasmosis. These days he has to golf with a friend. He would like to buy a house in Florida before he loses his eyesight completely, but he just can't afford it.


What do people do in retirement? They play golf or buy a new home. Despite their early retirement, and despite their spending money and time on things like a new home, we're told that these people may "have" to get a job again. Things are getting "darker" for them, since they won't be able to keep spending $75000 a year.

I often meet, or hear about, people who return to work because they can't find much to do in retirement. They're bored. A few years ago, I spoke with a man, who professed to be a Christian, who was about to retire. What were his plans for retirement? Not much, apparently. His wife had lined up a long list of unnecessary housework for him to do. A television ad I saw, maybe a year or two ago, was built on the premise that people largely spend their retirement watching television. A recent study found that the average American spends more than five hours a day watching TV, and the average is higher for the elderly.

How are you using your time? How are you raising your children? What examples are you setting for them and for other people? What are your plans for retirement?

If you're a Christian who's bored, who can't think of much that's significant to do with his time, go see one of the pastors of your church. Or contact a missionary, apologist, or somebody else working in some field of Christian ministry. They should be able to give you a lot of ideas about how to better spend your time.

"Consider a story from the February 1998 edition of Reader's Digest, which tells about a couple who 'took early retirement from their jobs in the Northeast five years ago when he was 59 and she was 51. Now they live in Punta Gorda, Florida, where they cruise on their 30 foot trawler, play softball and collect shells.' At first, when I read it I thought it might be a joke. A spoof on the American Dream. But it wasn't. Tragically, this was the dream: Come to the end of your life - your one and only precious, God-given life - and let the last great work of your life, before you give an account to your Creator, be this: playing softball and collecting shells. Picture them before Christ at the great day of judgment: 'Look, Lord. See my shells.' That is a tragedy. And people today are spending billions of dollars to persuade you to embrace that tragic dream." (John Piper, Don't Waste Your Life [Wheaton, Illinois: Crossway Books, 2003], pp. 45-46)

"So what can't [science] account for?"



HT: Kingdomview.

Tuesday, October 20, 2009

Twisse on supralapsarianism

[Quote] Now Twisse was no enemy to logic in theological discussions. In fact his statement and defense of Supralapsarianism has been obscured if not ignored in later accounts of the question. It is therefore in order to hear his own precise formulation, which differs from that of others with whom he has been included as holding this high version of Calvinism. In treating of the teaching of Prov. 16:4 as to the manifestation of God’s glory as the end of his works, Twisse writes: “And from hence we conclude, that in case the end is such as has been specified, and all those actions following, congruous means tending to that end, therefore the decree of manifesting God’s glory, as above specified is first with God, and secondly, the decree of the means; which means although they are many materially, yet they come all under one formal notion of means tending to a certain end, which according to the several parts thereof bespeaks them all, and consequently they are all to be considered, as making up the object of one formal decree, called the decree of the means: and the intention of none of them is before another, but all intended at once, as means tending to the end which is first intended. In like manner if God shall be pleased to intend the manifestation of his glory in Man, or Angel, in the way of justice vindicative, the means necessarily required hereunto are Creation, Permission of sin, and Damnation unto punishment, and all three make up the object of one formal decree which is to be called the decree of the means. So that like as God doth not intend the creature’s creation, before he intends his damnation, in the same respect he cannot be said to intend his damnation before he intends his creation, or the permissions of his sin.” (p. 11). In this way, Twisse demolishes the Arminian objection that Supralapsarianism is guilty of the blasphemy that God has determined to create men in order to damn them. At the same time he hints gently that Infralapsarians have no reason to agree with Arminians on this point.

http://www.presbyterianreformed.org/articlesbooksShow.php?articlesID=24

Do-It-Yourself Deity

"What is God?"

Giving Up Social Currency For Something Better

People often like to flatter themselves, or be flattered by others, with the notion that they have less free time than they actually have. Advertisers and politicians, for example, often flatter people in an attempt to get their money or their vote. People want to think of themselves as hard workers, even if they aren't. And claiming to be busy is a common excuse for ignorance of the Bible, ignorance of politics, and other forms of negligence. Supposedly, people don't know more about the Bible, pray more, follow election campaigns more closely, or know more about current events, for example, because they don't have the time for it.

I've written on this subject in the past. People have more free time than they let on. A recent study found that the average American spends more than five hours a day watching television. The New York Times article I just linked concludes:

When subjects in the study were asked to recall their behaviors, “people underestimated the amount of time they spent with TV by a substantial amount,” about 25 percent on average, Mr. Wakshlag said. The same people tended to overestimate their use of other media.

For some people, there is a “social stigma” attached to high levels of TV watching, Mr. Bloxham said. When some people are asked to estimate their TV viewing, he said, some of them may not “want to tell you five or six hours, because that may slip into the couch potato category,” he said. For others, he said, “there is no stigma because being able to talk about last night’s reality show or last night’s ball game is social currency.”


But knowledge of some other subjects isn't so valuable as social currency. Most Americans don't read the Bible much. They don't know much about the Bible. They place more of an emphasis on being an American than being a Christian. In summary:

The Christian body in America is immersed in a crisis of biblical illiteracy. How else can you describe matters when most church-going adults reject the accuracy of the Bible, reject the existence of Satan, claim that Jesus sinned, see no need to evangelize, believe that good works are one of the keys to persuading God to forgive their sins, and describe their commitment to Christianity as moderate or even less firm?


The New York Times article cited above refers to watching television as something that provides social currency. I think an excessive desire for social currency is one of the reasons why so many professing Christians spend an inordinate amount of time with popular television programs, movies, music, sports, etc. If you spend your time responsibly, you'll pay a high social price for it. Are you paying that sort of price for your time management? If you go into work this morning without being able to name the four gospels, without knowing who the vice president of the nation is, or without knowing how to defend your view of abortion, you probably won't pay much of a social price for it. But if you didn't watch American Idol or Monday Night Football, you'll most likely be left out of a lot of discussions. The world won't reward you for your knowledge of theology, church history, or ethics as much as it will reward you for your knowledge of trivial and vulgar television programs, music, and sports.

There's nothing inherently wrong with something like watching television or playing a video game. But the degree to which Americans are involved in such activity, while neglecting things that are far more important, is grossly wrong.

But apart from what's wrong, what's wise? If a Christian is free to watch a television program, in the sense that there's nothing about the program that makes watching it unacceptable in most or all contexts, it doesn't follow that he ought to do so in the current context.

One of the reasons why I oppose the sort of large government role in healthcare that's currently being proposed by many Democrats is that we can't afford it as a nation. We're out of money. We've already put our children and grandchildren into deep debt.

And we don't just have a financial debt. We also have a debt of time. We can't afford to spend time on things like sports and video games the way we might have in the past. In a time of war, you make sacrifices that you wouldn't make at other times. The less your surrounding culture is teaching you about the Bible, for example, the more time you'll have to spend to learn about it without your culture's help. The less other people in your society know about the Bible, the more time you'll have to spend trying to educate them. You have to spend more time educating your children yourself. More time analyzing television programs and books, for example, before allowing them into your life or your home. More time trying to learn how to interact with a culture that's more ignorant of and hostile toward your worldview. Etc. The same is true of politics, ethics, and other subjects when a society neglects them.

I'm not suggesting that everything is getting worse. It's a mixed bag. On some issues, such as racism and abortion, there's been some improvement over time. But I think the general trend has been negative. (Societal acceptance of pornography and homosexuality are a couple of examples, and see the recent Barna data on views of the Bible here, for instance.) And even if things were getting better, or were the same, we would still be far from where we ought to be.

Scripture often encourages us to consider future generations and make sacrifices for their benefit, "that a people yet to be created may praise the Lord" (Psalm 102:18). You don't have to avoid things like sports and video games altogether. But why not give them up, or at least decrease your time spent on them, anyway? Many people of previous generations did so, to your benefit. A Christian ought to be enthralled by "the unfathomable riches of Christ" (Ephesians 3:8). He should be risking and sacrificing (responsibly), trying to achieve great things, involved in something that's "more wonderful than all the golden fancies of all our golden dreams". That's difficult to do when your mind is immersed in baseball, American Idol, and the latest popular music and movies.

Monday, October 19, 2009

James & the Jesus tradition

Here’s a question I wrote to a commentator on James, followed by his reply:

Dear Dr. McCartney,

Today I was reading through your new commentary on James. Thanks for your contribution to the church.

I had a question. On a section documenting various points of commonality between James and the Jesus tradition, you say: “A few correspondences are found only with the Lukan Sermon on the Plain and not in Matthew…” (51).

As you know, liberals treat the dominical speeches in the Synoptic Gospels as fictional set-pieces which redactors put in the mouth of Jesus.

Does the fact that James has close parallels with both the Matthean and Lukan editions of this dominical material indicate that this material goes back to a well-entrenched, preexisting Jesus tradition, rather than something a redactor fabricated on the spot? Otherwise, how would James independently hit upon such similar formulations?

Steve Hays

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Steve,

That is indeed one of several indications. James doesn't appear to be getting his material from the extant Gospels, but it does have an uncanny resemblance to the peculiarities of the Jesus tradition, esp. what is sometimes called Q. Either James is dependent on a strong tradition (either a written Q or an oral tradition) or else he has personal knowledge of the material -- either way it suggests both an early date for James and the antiquity of the Jesus tradition, at least in terms of Jesus's teaching.

If you haven't seen it yet, Bauckham's little book on James (Routledge, 1999) was very helpful to me in this regard. A book by P. Hartin on James and Q in the JSNTSupp series is also helpful but not so convincing. (I have my doubts whether Q was ever a document)

Blessings
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Dan McCartney
Professor of New Testament Interpretation
Redeemer Theological Seminary, Dallas

The skeptical conundrum

Modern skeptics have staked out a self-refuting position on the history of Scripture. On the one hand, they insist that Scripture is historically unreliable. Unreliable, they assure us, because it was written long after the fact. Decades or centuries later. Written by men were didn’t witness the purported events they describe. Written by men who never knew anyone contemporaneous with the purported events they describe.

On the other hand, modern skeptics who say this are writing long after the fact. Millennia later. Skeptics who didn’t witness the purported events they deny. Skeptics who never knew anyone contemporaneous with the purported events they deny.

Dembski on freedom and evil

To my knowledge, William Dembski is not a Calvinist. That makes his comments on various permutations of the freewill defense all the more interesting:

“The Cross is God’s answer to evil. But whence evil?…Since everything is created by God, a will that turns against God is one of his creations. But a good God presumably created a good will. How, then, could a good will turn against God? I’m not sure that any final answer can be given to this question. Invoking freedom of the will is little help here. Certainly, freedom of the will contains within it the logical possibility of a will turning against God. But why should a good will created by a good God exercise its freedom in that way (for instance, Christian theology teaches that there are good angels whose wills never turned against God)?” The End of Christianity: Finding a Good God in an Evil World (B&H 2009), 27.

“Elliot Sober also feels the force of this problem: ‘It is often claimed that some evils exist because human beings have free will and sometimes freely chose actions that are wrong. Free will is supposed to be such a wonderful thing that a benevolent God would have given us this great benefit even though it brought with it a considerable cost. Like a number of other philosophers, I don’t see why having free will rules out always freely choosing to do the right thing. If a sinner can have free will, why can’t a saint?’” ibid. 201n1.

“We can imagine a world far more violent than ours in which many more people die annually of natural disasters. Alternatively, we can imagine a world far more halcyon than ours in which no one dies of natural disasters because the whole world is a serene tropical paradise…As suggested earlier, why didn’t God simply place us on a less dangerous planet where earthquakes don’t ravage human life? Or was this not an option for the Creator, and if not, why not? What are we to make of divine providence in a world with the freedom to crush us? Why, in most classical Christian liturgies of the Christian churches, do we pray for favorable seasons and good crops if the freedom of creation means that the land is going to do what it will regardless? Or does God constrain the freedom of creation? But, if so, why doesn’t God place tighter constraints on this freedom in relation to evil?” ibid. 30-31.

“Contemporary strategies for redressing the Fall consistently run aground because they attribute at least some of the evil that humanity suffers to factors other than human guilt. In such approaches, God lets humanity suffer evils of which it is entirely innocent–evils for which it is not responsible and which it therefore does not deserve. For a good God to permit such evils thus presupposes a limitation on God’s power and knowledge. For presumably, if God’s power and knowledge were up to the task, he would be both able and morally obligated, as a matter of justice to prevent evils of which we are innocent from afflicting us. This is why process and openness theologies have become increasingly attractive. They give us a God who means well but is limited in stemming the tide of evil,” ibid. 32.

“Kushner, in offering these reflections, no doubt means well–just as his God means well. But he fails to address the obvious question: Did God, as Creator, set up the conditions by which the laws of nature, evolution, and human freedom lead to painful things? If not, what sort of Creator is he? And if so, how is God any less complicit in our pain?” ibid. 33.

“So, according to Campolo, God was at one point all-powerful but then gave up his power so that humans could experience free will. But now, like King Lear, God, having ceded his power, witnesses the wreckage of his kingdom and can’t do anything about it. Campolo’s self limiting God raises several questions:

1. Isn’t God culpable for voluntarily limiting himself and thereby allowing evil to run amuck? To say that free will was worth the cost seems hardly fair since humans are the ones picking up the tab.
2. Why should human free will require natural evil? It’s easy enough to imagine a far safer world in which we retain our free will.
3. What are we to make of the biblical teaching that God performs miracles? If God can intervene in the world miraculously, then why doesn’t he use that power more frequently and effectively to reduce our suffering (rather than just crying about Pakistani earthquakes)? And if he can’t perform miracles, what does that do to biblical exegesis?” ibid. 33-34.

“Such a God wrings his hands over the world’s evil and, like an ineffectual politician, tries haltingly to make the world a better place. To our hardier theological forebears, this God would have seemed pathetic (to say nothing of heretical). But each age constructs gods in its own image, and in this touchy-feely age, a diminished God who shares our vulnerabilities and weaknesses is all the rage,” ibid. 34.

“Gregory Boyd, a proponent of open theism, has in fact written an entire book on the evils that may, in his view, properly be ascribed to Satan: Satan and the Problem of Evil: Constructing a Trinitarian Warfare Theodicy. In that book, Boyd shifts to Satan the responsibility for natural evil. Yet, in making that shift, Boyd embraces a dualism that Lewis would have rejected. Because open theism contracts the power and knowledge of God, God does not have Satan on a leash as he does in classical theism. Thus, for Boyd, Satan becomes an independent center of evil activity. This is not quite a Manichean dualism, in which good and evil are ontological equals (Satan for Boyd is still a created being). But it’s close. Moreover, it’s not clear how Boyd’s theodicy absolves God of evil since as Satan’s Creator, he must have realized the possibilities of evil inherent in his creation,” ibid. 38-39.

“By the way, I’m no fan of middle knowledge…. Philosophically, I object to middle knowledge because it hinges on assigning determinate truth-values to counterfactual conditionals, a property these conditionals can’t reasonably be said to possess. If John F. Kennedy hadn’t been assassinated, he would have been reelected in 1964. Is this counterfactual conditional true? Given Kennedy’s popularity, it seems likely that he would have been reelected. Given his sexual indiscretions, a scandal might have prevented him from being reelected,” ibid. 215n14.

“On the assumption that humans have libertarian free will, how does God figure out what we would do in a given circumstance? Sure, God will know our range of options. But if Kennedy hadn’t been assassinated, how does God know all the free actions of voters as they cast or refrain from casting their ballots’ for JFK? Does God determine the action of voters? That would defeat the whole point of middle knowledge, which is to avoid the hard theological determinism of Calvinism. But if God has no determinative role in human action (and many passages of Scripture suggest that he does, e.g., Prov 21:1), is God’s knowledge of the action of free agents in particular circumstances simply a surd? In other words, it simply is the case, with nothing further making it true, that free agents act in one and only one way in a given circumstance. While there may be no logical contradiction in treating middle knowledge as a surd, that hardly comments it,” ibid. 215.

“Theologically, I object to middle knowledge because it seems to compromise grace. The big selling point of middle knowledge for theodicy is that it portrays God as doing everthing he can to break the grip of evil over fallen creatures. If God has middle knowledge, God knows what a given creature would do in every conceivable circumstance. Thus, if God is also truly loving, he will employ his middle knowledge to arrange circumstances so that the creature derives maximal benefit.

“Here’s the difficulty: the problem of evil is so insidious that the free will of some free creatures will never shake it. Many free creatures, if we are to believe Scripture, will use their freedom to embrace evil and consign themselves to hell. What starts out as a way of killing two birds with one stone-God appears to get a theodicy and we humans appear to get free will–thus winds up providing neither. If middle knowledge is correct, for free creatures that perpetually abuse their freedom, under no conceivable circumstance will such creatures turn from evil to good–no matter how much of God’s grace gets applied to turn the tide of evil in their lives.

“But think what this means. Here is a creature incapable of being touched by God’s grace, a creature so completely trapped that try what God may, that creature will never escape evil. Call this a free creature if you will, but this free creature of the Arminians is functionally equivalent to the reprobate creature of the Calvinists…Both creatures have been determined to remain in evil, one for the noble-sounding reason that the creature’s free will unremittingly chooses evil, the other for the ignoble-sounding reason that God, for the sake of his glory, chose the creature to remain interminably in evil,” ibid. 215-16.

Sunday, October 18, 2009

Whence then Calvinism?

Many of our Arminian friends make the claim that Calvinism is not found in the Bible, but it instead eisegeted in by the Calvinist. I would humbly ask a question of any Arminian who believes this:

From whence did the belief of Calvinism originate?

That is, suppose for argument that you are correct and that the Bible does not teach Calvinism. Why, then, would anyone who reads Scripture come to a Calvinist understanding of those passages? If Arminianism is true, then why would any man read Scripture and believe Calvinism to be true? What worldly system proffers a view like Calvinism such that a Calvinist believes this false philosophy and imputes it into the text of Scripture? What is that false philosophy? Name it and trace the path between it and the Reformed view. Or barring any actual existent philosophy, name the error of thought that would render a man incapable of reading Arminianism in Scripture and instead coming to the opposite conclusion.

Because the Calvinist can answer this question in reverse. For even Arminians ought to be able to see that if you assume Calvinism is true (for the sake of argument), then we know that man is depraved and wishes to think more importantly of himself than is his due. This will immediately tend to make a person believe he has more power in determining his salvation than he actually does. Hence, if Calvinism is true, Arminians are to be expected.

But how does that work for the Arminian? Even if man is depraved, God supposedly gives grace that makes it possible for all to believe—at least all who hear the Gospel. Why, then, in the presence of this grace, would any man believe Calvinism instead of Arminianism? What are the steps there, Arminian brothers? How does this follow? Have you thought it out at all? Does this not interest you in the least?

Foretastes

From Matthew Henry:
The best and dearest of God’s saints and servants may sometimes have their lot cast in a wilderness, which speaks them lonely and solitary, desolate and afflicted, wanting, wondering, and unsettled, and quite at a loss what to do with themselves. All the straits and difficulties of a wilderness must not put us out of tune for sacred songs; but even then it is our duty and interest to keep up a cheerful communion with God. There are psalms proper for a wilderness, and we have reason to thank God that it is the wilderness of Judah we are in, not the wilderness of sin. "Early I seek you." The true Christian devotes to God the morning hour. He opens the eyes of his understanding with those of his body, and awakes each morning to righteousness. He arises with the thirst after those comforts that the world cannot give, and has immediate recourse by prayer to the Fountain of the water of life. The true believer is convinced that nothing in this sinful world can satisfy the wants and desires of his immortal soul; he expects his happiness from God, as his portion. When faith and hope are most in exercise, the world appears a weary desert, and the believer longs for the joys of heaven, of which he has some foretastes in the ordinances of God upon earth.
HT: The Gospel Coalition Blog.

Home sweet home

"Lord, you have been our dwelling place in all generations." (Psa. 90:1)

Like the ancient Israelites, many of us who live in this country originally came from different lands. Many of our families have moved from one land to another land. Many have settled in one place for a generation or two, only to be uprooted for political or economic or other reasons in a subsequent generation. That's how our family and personal histories have unfolded in space and time.

In fact, that's the story of history itself. How people have peopled the earth. That's part of what makes history so interesting.

Indeed, the earth itself is a wonderful place worth exploring and appreciating. It's full of beauties for the eye and ear and more. And the universe itself is a marvel for the senses.

Yet, the universe and all it contains including the earth is not our home. If we could people the entire solar system, the Milky Way, and all the other galaxies in the universe, it would not be enough for us. If we could behold the untold beauties beyond our pale blue dot, it would not quench our thirst.

That's not because of the universe, but because of us. As large and as beautiful as the universe is, it is but a trifle in comparison to the measure of man. The universe is too small for us. For we were made for something greater. We yearn for it.

After all, we can appreciate the universe in the first place. What would the universe be without one who could appreciate it? What would we be if we couldn't appreciate it? We can discover its hidden treasures. We can create from its very depths. The universe supplies mathematicians with elegant patterns and formulas and scientists with scientific laws and discoveries as much as it supplies poets and writers with the stuff of poetry and literature. The universe supplies scenes for the painter's eyes, sounds for the musician's ears, food and drink for the chef's taste. But it is material which we can use and improve upon. Which we can form into something which is of an even greater glory than the original material. We can imagine greater things beyond the universe.

What's more, when we look at others, we realize each one of us is universe in himself. I mean there's more to discover in one person than in the entire cosmos.

On the downside, the world is a wearying place. It can quickly become a desert. As many beauties as there are to behold in the universe, most of us come to a point at which we realize that there's more emptiness than there is fullness in the universe. There's more darkness in the universe than there is light. There's more cold than there is heat. More silence than sound. We realize that life is the rare exception in the entropic universe which is gradually but inexorably decaying and dying. Like the atom, which mainly consists of empty space, so too the universe is largely tractless void emptying into more tractless void.

The universe is a lonely place. At best the earth is an oasis amid the desert wasteland of the universe.

Ultimately, we have no home. And what we do have is falling apart all around us. We're falling apart too.

Not so for the believer. Not so the one who has taken refuge in the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, who is his rock and fortress and ark of salvation. Not so for the one who has hidden his life with Christ in God.

Not so for the one who sees the Celestial City from afar, having acknowledged that he is a stranger and exile on the earth. For he seeks a better country, a heavenly country. He looks forward to the city that has foundations, whose designer and builder is God. And though God will shake not only the earth but also the heavens so that only those things which cannot be shaken will remain, and though the heavens will pass away with a roar and be dissolved, yet God has promised a new heavens and a new earth in which true goodness and holiness and righteousness dwells. Therefore, God is not ashamed to be called their God, for he has prepared for them a city, the New Jerusalem.

At present we have no place to lay our heads in this world. But Christ has promised that he goes to prepare a place for us. And if he goes and prepares a place for us, he will come again and will take us to himself, that where he is we may be also. We will be his people, and he will be our God.

It's a long journey home, but it'll be a well spent journey, though seven deaths lay between, when we reach Immanuel's land.

Or, as Augustine put it, we were made for God and our hearts are restless until they find their rest in him. Our hearts long and faint to be home with him. For, truly, he is our dwelling place. Our home sweet home.

Gut-reactive theological method

“In Friday's post, I did not suggest, either in the original post or in the revised version, that supralapsarians insist that the elect are few and the reprobate are many. That was my summation. Hence those who admit that I did in fact suggest such a thing are guilty of misrepresentation.”

http://classicalarminianism.blogspot.com/2009/10/few-shall-be-elected-many-shall-be.html

How is that a misrepresentation if I’m quoting his very own summation? Doesn’t his summation represent his true views?

“Therefore, we are under no obligation to historically investigate what Calvinists have taught concerning the number of the elect and the reprobate, for no suggestion was made to infer such. Nor is it our concern as to what Calvinists have believed historically on the question of the number of the elect and the reprobate. The only thing that matters is what Scripture teaches. We will then judge the validity of the supralapsarian's claims against that righteous Standard.”

That’s simplistic and deceptive. You can’t begin to judge whether or not the supra position is unscriptural unless, as a preliminary step, you accurately describe the supra position.

If he’s going to claim supralapsarianism is unscriptural because it says the reprobate outnumber the elect, then that allegation turns on the establishment of two or more propositions:

i) Supralapsarianism teaches that the reprobate outnumber the elect.

ii) It’s unscriptural to teach that the reprobate outnumber the elect.

iii) In addition, (ii) could be broken down into either of two possible objections:

a) Reprobation is unscriptural

b) Reprobation is scriptural, but it’s unscriptural to teach that the reprobate outnumber the elect.

“However, if we find in Scripture any allusion to the number of the elect being few and the reprobate being many, we can then ask questions regarding the supralapsarian model of God's decrees.”

Of course, that’s fatally equivocal. Since Birch doesn’t believe that Scripture even teaches reprobation, as Calvinism defines it, then he doesn’t believe the reprobate outnumber the elect, as Calvinism defines it.

Indeed, this puts him in a dilemma. If he actually thinks, according to Scripture, that the reprobate outnumber the elect, then how would supralapsarian be falsified by teaching that fact (assuming that it does)?

“Thes following three Calvinists, however, had this to say concerning the number of the elect and the reprobate.”

i) Notice that Birch is once again equivocating. What is the point of quoting three Reformed exegetes? Is the point to establish what supralapsarianism teaches? Or is the point to establish the correct exegesis of a Bible verse?

Birch himself prefaced his post by saying it doesn’t matter what Calvinists teaches; it only matters what the Bible teaches. So why is he quoting three Reformed exegetes? Is that to establish the correct exegesis of Scripture? But if Birch thinks that Calvinists correctly exegete Scripture, especially on issues like reprobation, then why is he an Arminian rather than a Calvinist?

ii) If, on the other hand, he’s quoting three Calvinists to establish what Calvinism teaches, then his sampling fails to establish his contention. The question at issue is not whether some Calvinists think the reprobate outnumber the elect. Rather, the question at issue is whether this is a defining feature of Calvinism. Is this a sine qua non of Calvinism?

For example, you can quote Calvinists who are amillenialists. That, however, wouldn’t begin to establish that amillennialism is the official position of Calvinism, or even the mainstream position. After all, many Calvinists are postmils, while some are premils.

Quoting a Calvinist can only establish one of two possible things:

a) That such a position is permissible in Calvinism.

b) That such a position is representative of Calvinism in general.

Quoting a Calvinist does not, of itself, establish (b).

iii) Furthermore, remember how Billy chose to frame the issue. He’s taking issue with supralapsarian Calvinism in particular, not Calvinism in general. So, to establish his contention within his chosen framework, he would need to confine his quotations to supralapsarian exegetes. Are Calvin, Henry, and Hendrickson supralapsarians?

“Calvinism may have no official position as to the number of the elect and the reprobate, but those three heavy weight Calvinists sure believed that the number of the reprobate outnumber those of the elect!”

And, of course, you have heavyweights like Warfield who take the opposite position. Indeed, Warfield is in a higher weight division than either Henry or Hendrickson.

“Certain Calvinists tend towards affliction and vexation that their theology implies that God only intended via unconditional election to save a few. Why should that matter to them? If all things are determined toward the glory of God, then it should not matter whether or not God unconditionally elected to save three people out of a hundred billion, or ten billion people out of a hundred billion.”

Either Billy is still too uncomprehending to grasp the question at issue, or else this is another example of his bait-and-switch tactics.

I have no antecedent objection to the possibility that the reprobate outnumber the elect. And I have no strong position one way or the other on what percentage of humanity God has chosen to save.

That’s not the issue, is it? The issue is the position which Billy is attributing to Calvinism. The issue is whether Billy is misrepresenting Reformed theology.

I don’t think it’s asking too much of someone who plans to become a church historian that he should accurately represent a theological tradition–even if he disagrees with it.

Billy has repeatedly attributed to Calvinism the position that the reprobate outnumber the elect. That’s the bone of contention. Did he misstate what Reformed theology stands for? That’s the issue at hand.

Billy’s problem is that, at best, he’s conflicted. On the one hand, he’s an Armininan polemicist. On the other hand, he fancies himself to be a budding church historian. But he frequently sacrifices historical accuracy to score polemic points.

Billy then spends some time trying to exegete Mt 7:13-14. I notice that he blows right past the exegetical arguments of the commentators I quoted. He makes no effort to interact with, much less disprove, their interpretation.

i) He then goes on to quote Lenski, Macarthur, Plummer, and Griffith Thomas. This illustrates his lack of scholarship. If you’re going to do serious exegesis, and if you’re going to consult commentaries, then you need to have some rating system for commentaries, and not reach for just any commentary or study Bible you happen to own-–or can google.

I cited some top commentaries by some top scholars. Billy and I are simply not operating at the same level. Citing very dated and/or popular commentaries (much less study Bibles) doesn’t cut it, exegetically.

Remember, Billy has academic ambitions. He wants to be a church historian. So he needs to operate at a more academic level, with academic standards. I hope he wouldn’t quote a Puritan commentary or a footnote from a study Bible in a term paper for a course in NT studies.

If he can’t afford the best commentaries, or if the library at his college is poorly stocked, he can get what he needs through interlibrary loan.

ii) Keep in mind that I don’t have to have a settled position on the correct interpretation of Mt 7:13-14. My belief-system is consistent with either interpretation. Whether the elect outnumber the reprobate or vice versa is irrelevant to Calvinism. It could go either way without falsifying Calvinism.

“Whether or not one believes that the reprobate will outnumber the elect, that should not distract anyone from the fact that in the supralapsarian scheme, God's first decree was to unconditionally elect some to heaven and unconditionally reprobate others to hell prior to His decree to even create human beings.”

“Distract”? Billy is the one who keeps harping on the percentages, not me. I’m merely responding to his emphasis, not mine.

This is a face-saving maneuver on Billy’s part. Unable to back up his allegations, he has to back down. But in the process he acts as though I was trying to deflect attention from the real issue, when he himself made the issue of percentages a central concern.

“Steve Hays, of Triablogue, indicating that from God's view, the decrees were made simultaneously.”

Since they’re timeless, they’re not either successive or simultaneous. My point, rather, as I explained at the time, is that God views the parts in relation to the whole and the whole in relation to the parts. The decree is holistic. God doesn’t decree one thing in isolation to another. It’s therefore simplistic to think that in the internal teleology of the decree, one decree has no object in relation to another–as if this is a psychological or chronological process.

“Concerning the reprobate ‘revealing the justice of God,’ exactly how will they accomplish the revealing of God's justice? They will do so by spending an eternity in hell. And why will they spend an eternity in hell, ‘revealing the justice of God’? Because God predetermined that they would sin, and thus be cast into hell, solely for the purpose of ‘revealing the justice of God.’ Thus when I suggested in my original post that the reprobate were created solely for hell, according to Hays, what I should have conveyed was that the reprobate were created solely for revealing the justice of God by spending eternity in hell. And somehow this is a more biblical perspective.”

i) There’s a fundamental difference between the claim that God creates the reprobate solely to damn them, and the claim that God creates the reprobate to reveal his justice in damning sinners. In one case, damnation is an end in itself. Done for its own sake. In the other case, damnation is a means to an end. Done for the sake of other considerations. What could be more elementary–or elemental?

ii) Moreover, to simply express his distaste for a predetermined outcome is not an argument. I realize that Billy suffers from a visceral reaction to Calvinism. However, the lower intestine is not the best organ to use in evaluating theological claims.

iii) Furthermore, I specifically addressed the alleged injustice of predestining the damned to hell. Billy can only repeat his formulaic objection. He does nothing to advance the argument. He offers no counterargument to my reply.

“Of course, in Hays' second proposal, God also needed some reprobate fathers to beget some elect children. This is just utter nonsense…”

What’s utter nonsense is Billy’s inability to either follow his own argument or mine. I was merely responding to the way in which he cast the issue. Did I say that God “needed” some reprobate fathers to beget elect children? No.

I was merely responding to Billy’s sweeping claim about God’s “sole” purpose in reprobation. Whether or not it’s necessary (God “needed” it) is irrelevant to whether or not that’s an additional reason for reprobation. Remember, once again, how Billy chose to frame the issue. Does God create the reprobate merely to damn them? But if the reprobate serve more than one purpose, then that’s sufficient to overturn Billy’s contention.

It would behoove him to keep track of his own arguments. Of course, I realize that when he uses so many lame arguments, he might well be inclined to ditch them in the nearest dumpster. But I reserve the right to hold him to the terms of his challenge.

“And can only be substantiated by one's a priori that God has unconditionally elected to save some and unconditionally reprobated others.”

Calvinism doesn’t teach unconditional reprobation.

“Otherwise, no one would ever come to such a conclusion from a prima facie reading of Scripture.”

Of course, that simply begs the question.

“God did not damn the reprobate for the sake of damning them; according to Hays, the reprobate have a much more noble purpose: revealing the justice of God.”

And Billy thinks the revelation of divine justice is an ignoble purpose?

Even on his own terms, why does Billy think God damns anyone? Does he think God damns the wicked justly or unjustly? If justly, then isn’t that a good thing? Or is that ignoble?

“Perhaps this will comfort them while they spend eternity in hell for having done that which God unconditionally predetermined them to do.”

Why should the wicked take comfort in God’s punishment?

“In Arminianism, God creates those whom He foreknows will spend eternity in hell. In that case, Hays is correct. But how he sees this as no more softer than the supralapsarian theory is very telling. Hays forgets, no doubt unintentionally, that in Arminianism, God grants the ‘non-elect’ enabling grace to believe in Christ Jesus when presented with the gospel (Rom. 1:16), and when being convicted of one's sins through the ministry of the Holy Spirit (John 16:8-11). God's intention, if you will, was not to unconditionally reprobate certain people. The reprobate appertain to those who reject salvation by grace through faith in Christ Jesus.”

If God foreknew the fate of the damned, then it was his intention to create them with that hellish destiny in mind. He knew by creating them that this is where they’d spend eternity. So he created them with a view to consigning them to everlasting hell. He sends them to hell. And he made them with that outcome in mind.

“His attempt to construct an Arminian theory of possible worlds (allowing for libertarian freedom), wherein ‘a hellbound sinner in this world is a heavenbound sinner in the alternative scenario,’ noting that ‘God didn't realize the alternative scenario in which the sinner goes to heaven rather than hell’ is nothing more than a smoke screen. For in both possible worlds, allowing for libertarian freedom, the hellbound sinner in this world, which could hypothetically go to heaven in another world (and vice versa), given different cirucumstances, etc., was still graced and enabled by God to trust in Christ Jesus. I have never been comfortable in the discussion of Molinism (middle knowledge and possible worlds). There is no way to validate this theory. I am much more comfortable with inquiring into that which Scripture reveals, and addressing God's activity in the only possible world to which we are privy: this one.”

i) My analysis doesn’t depend on Molinism. The fact that Molinism has recourse to possible worlds doesn’t mean that that’s distinctive to Molinism.

Rather, my analysis derives from libertarian freewill. Arminians attribute libertarian freewill to human beings. And they define that faculty as the freedom or power to do otherwise (and choose otherwise).

And what it means to do otherwise is cashed out in terms of possible worlds. A possible world corresponding to an alternate course of action. If Billy is committed to libertarian freewill, then that, in turn, commits him to a possible world which represents the hypothetical alternative.

If Judas has the freedom to do otherwise, then there’s a possible world in which Judas did not betray Jesus.

Libertarianism, especially the Arminian variety, generates forking paths. A fork in the road where you could either turn right or left. And there’s a possible world for each direction.

So if he takes Arminian action theory seriously, then God didn’t save lots of people he was in a position to save by instantiating the possible world or world-segment in which they were believers rather than unbelievers.

ii) Since, moreover, Billy clearly believes that only a minority of the human race is heavenbound, then God refused to save a majority of the human race although it lay within his power, even on libertarian grounds, to save every single one of them.

The only way around this–consistent with libertarianism– is to stake out the open theist position, according to which God can’t foresee future contingents. Therefore, God can’t foresee which possible world contains more believers. Therefore, it’s a roll of the dice which possible world is instantiated. And, unfortunately for most of us, the dice came up snake eyes.

“But could God not have accomplished this through angels? There were angels who obeyed the LORD, and angels who ‘did not keep their own domain, but abandoned their proper abode’ (Jude 6 NASB). He could have demonstrated His goodness to the angels who obeyed Him, and evinced His justice to those who abandoned Him. It does not seem proper to speak of God needing to create human beings (who will live in one state or another for all of eternity) merely in order to fulfill a decree.”

Is Billy saying that reprobation would be “proper” if applied to angels, but “improper” if applied to men? But if it’s proper in one case, why not the other?

Worshiping Dr. Manhattan

A little while back, Arminian1 posted a reply to James Anderson:

http://evangelicalarminians.org/Determinism-Predestination-Magic-Handwaving-in-the-Calvinist-Cause

At the time, I ignored his reply because, when I read his preface, he had the following disclaimer:

“As this has been a discussion between James and me, I will not feel obliged to respond to any rejoinder offered by Steve Hays. As James mentioned in his post, time and energy are an issue in this discussion. This has been a discussion primarily between James and me, and I intend to keep my focus on responding to James and what he offers by way of response. I may or may not respond to commenters in the comboxes of the various posts in this discussion. But I think it would be a little unfair to ask me to debate both James and Steve at the same time. And I have no interest in switching my discussion partner from James to Steve.”

However, as I scroll down I now see that, his disclaimer notwithstanding, he responds to my comments at length. Like a double-minded man (James 1:8), he can’t seem to decide what he wants to do.

I do realize, that it would be quite a come down to switch from Dr. Anderson to yours truly. But life is unfair.

“This is a remarkable statement. I simply followed the logic of positions James holds and grants to their natural conclusion. If God is outside of time and not bound by it, then it is not hand-waving to point out that what would be impossible for time-bound creatures would be possible for God.”

i) That doesn’t even begin to follow. To say that for all we know, something may be possible is no reason to believe that something is actually the case or even probably the case.

ii) Moreover, to say something is “possible” is equivocal. That may just be an admission of our ignorance. It doesn’t concede that something is, in fact, possible. In some cases it’s just a way of saying that we don’t know enough to rule it out. It could, in fact, be impossible.

For example, a homicide detective might have several different theories of the crime. These are all “possible” in the sense that, based on the available evidence, the crime could have gone down in one or another of these ways. But in another respect, most of these theories are actually impossible in the sense that most of them are wrong. It’s not possible that if it happened one way, then it also happened a contrary way.

So to say something is possible is not necessarily to affirm that it’s a live possibility. Rather, it can just be a shorthand expression of ignorance.

Whether we’re talking about a live possibility or a confession of ignorance regarding the actual state of affairs can only be determined by context. Arminian1 constantly oscillates between these different senses of “possible.”

iii) Furthermore, when we start talking about logical paradoxes generated by backward or circular causation, this is not the same thing as saying the available evidence is neutral. Rather, to judge by the evidence we have, these things are impossible. Given the sophisticated arguments against backward causation or retrocausation, the burden of proof lies on whoever wants to defend their possibility.

iv) Apropos (iii), it’s not just a case of saying “we don’t know how that’s possible, but since we have evidence that it actually happens, we know it must be possible in some way or another.”

But that’s not our situation in reference to backward causation and circular causation. On the one hand, we have no evidence that this ever happens. On the other hand, we also have sophisticated arguments against their possible occurrence.

So, once again, the burden of proof lies on whoever wants to defend their possibility. That is not something which Dr. Anderson needs to disprove. Rather, that’s something that Arminian1 needs to prove if he wants to leave his options open on that score.

“I would argue, that God can know the future without irresistibly causing it as demanded by Scripture.”

And we’re waiting for him to present an actual argument.

“James agreed that God being outside of time does not prevent him from reaching into time and acting in time.”

i) Keep in mind that we’re using spatial metaphors here. Now, that’s fine in popular discourse. But in order to show that Piper’s or Anderson’s position is logically or metaphysically incoherent, what Arminian1 needs to do, as a preliminary step, is see if he can translate this picture-language into a literal proposition.

ii) Moreover, even at this figurative level, it’s not true that God has to literally reach into time or act in time to make things happen. (And I hardly think Dr. Anderson is speaking so woodenly. This is idiomatic parlance.) For example, a novelist doesn’t have to be a character in his own novel to make things happen. He makes things happen in the novel, not by acting in the novel, but by enacting the novel.

“I believe my response showed that a time-transcendent God who could interact in time with time-bound humans could surely allow himself to be affected by them. But if this is so, then what James refers to as backward causation follows as possible for God, though this is impossible for humans, unless of course God grants them this power or brings backward causation to pass because of his knowledge of human action.”

If you’re going to play along with that scenario, then retrocausation would also affect God’s knowledge of human action. For example, in consistent time-travel scenarios, (to the degree that such scenarios are ever consistent), the characters suffer from historical amnesia regarding their life in the alternate timeline. They don’t remember what happened to them in that timeline because they are no longer a part of that timeline. At this juncture, it didn’t happen to them. By erasing that alternate history, retrocausation also erases their memory of who they were and what they did in that alternate history.

So, if we were to play along with Arminian1’s model, God would suffer lapses of memory. Blackouts. On this model, human agents could, indeed, affect God. Specifically, they could affect his knowledge of the past and future. God would cease to be omniscient, for through their retrocausal actions, human agents could change God’s knowledge of the past and future–since the past and future he used to know would cease to have be the actual past and future.

“(Indeed, Scripture clearly shows God being affected by (time-bound) humans beings, not least by prayers that move him to answer those prayers [e.g., James 5:15-18; Ex 32:11-14].)”

i) Arminian1 is now operating on the hermeneutical terrain of the open theist. How can he offer a principled distinction between his exegetical appeals and the exegetical appeals of the open theist?

ii) God doesn’t need to be affected by the supplicant to answer the prayers of the supplicant. If God authors the narrative of human history, then he can script various characters who pray to him. And he can also write his answers to their prayers into the historical narrative which he himself authored.

Dropping the metaphor: God decrees our prayers, and he decrees his answers to our prayers. Arminian1 may not believe that, but it’s fully consistent with the Biblical phenomena.

“James begged the question by trying to restrict causation to temporal reality, which I pointed out leads to the absurd conclusion that God, if construed as timeless, never does anything.”

It involves a rudimentary distinction between a timeless cause and a temporal effect.

“How else are we to speak of God’s decision? Is it not an event? If not, then it never happens, which is to say God never decides, which renders talk of God’s decisions absurd.”

i) Arminian1 says God is timeless. But if God’s decision is something that happens, then there was a time when God was undecided. A time before it happened.

Remember, we’re not talking about the world at this point. What happens in the world. Or even the world happening.

Rather, we’re talking about God. What happens in reference to God.

But, in that case, God is not timeless. There was a time before he made up his mind, and a time after he made up his mind.

ii) A further consequence of Arminian1’s position is the implicit denial of God’s omniscience. If God always knew what he was going to do, then there was no point at which he made a decision. Conversely, if there was a point at which he made a decision, then he didn’t know in advance of his decision what his decision would be.

“So according to James, apparently we should not ever talk about God having done something in eternity (eternity past from our perpective) even though the Bible does. On this view, it seems we can’t even accurately speak of God doing something positively. We can only accurately speak of God—and this is going to be a mouthful—not having ever not done this or that particular thing. Calvinism sure makes it hard to speak reasonably. Perhaps that is why James also wants to leave behind normal definitions and ways of speaking for technical philosophical jargon that allows one to define things in such a way that are of no practical use for the ordinary person and that allows one to make one’s view work by definition even if it has no correspondence to reality (see below for a response to James’ opinion on this). I would urge that we stick with the Bible’s way of speaking about God’s actions in eternity, which actually allows for God to do things.”

i) Once again, Arminian1 is poaching on the hermeneutical territory of open theism. That’s a tacit admission that an Arminian can only oppose Calvinism by resorting to open theism.

ii) It is also disingenuous of Arminian1 to play the populist card when he also appeals to arcane features of modern physics to model God’s knowledge of the future. For such theories postulate highly counterintuitive views of time and space. They hardly represent common sense descriptions of human experience and human observation.

iii) Notice, too, that Arminian1 rejects my statement that there was never a time when God was undecided. So, according to Arminian1, there was a time when God was undecided. And as I’ve already pointed out, then commits Arminian1 to deny that God is omniscient and timeless.

iv) Keep in mind, too, that the primary question at issue is not how we should interpret Scripture, but whether Arminian1’s position is internally consistent.

v) As we shall see, Arminian1’s Bible is published by Marvel Entertainment, Inc.

“I will appeal to what I call simple middle knowledge (MK hereafter), a non-Molinist version of middle knowledge rooted in a simple foreknowledge perspective (hence, simple middle knowledge). Basically, this is the belief that God generally knows what people who exist/will exist would freely do in certain circumstances based on access to their will via his transcendence over time. So he only has such knowledge of people who do/will in fact exist. This avoids the grounding objection often raised against Molinism, for God’s knowledge of what a person would do is grounded in the person’s actual will.”

Of course, that doesn’t avoid the grounding objection. If an Arminian defines freewill as the freedom to do otherwise (i.e. choose between alternate possibilities), then what a person would do could go either way. More than one outcome is in play up until the time the agent settles on one outcome to the exclusion of others. If Arminian1 thinks that his “simple MK” theory avoids the grounding objection, then he needs to present a far more detailed argument.

“Such MK on God’s part can be seen in the Bible, such as when Jesus reveals what Tyre, Sidon, and Sodom would have done if circumstances had been different in Mt 11:20-24, and when the Lord tells David what Saul and the men of Keilah would do if David were to stay in Keilah (1 Sam 22:9-13; David did not stay and so they did not do what God knew they would have done). Clearly God knew what people would have done had circumstances been different.”

i) What Arminian1 idiosyncratically calls “simple middle knowledge” is merely counterfactual knowledge.

ii) He hasn’t begun to show that counterfactual knowledge is consistent with libertarian freewill. And, indeed, it’s commonly argued by libertarian philosophers that future contingents can’t be objects of knowledge.

“However, this type of knowledge does not fit comfortably into Calvinism/determinism. For it verges on preposterous to speak of what someone would have done differently in a deterministic scheme. It would amount to saying what God would have irresistibly caused them to do if he had irresistibly caused the situation to be different. So in Mt 11:20-24 Jesus would be castigating these people for not believing him and the wondrous miracles he did before them because he would have irresistibly caused the ancient people of Tyre, Sidon, and Sodom to have repented if he had performed those miracles before them. That's hard to swallow. Jesus’ statement of what they would have done in different circumstances only makes good sense in this context if they were really free to have acted in that way, which points toward the ultimate incoherence of determinism.”

i) Notice that Arminian1 is shifting gears. He begins with an ostensible appeal to Scripture. But then he falls back on libertarian action theory. Notice, though, that he doesn’t exegete libertarianism from Mt 11:20-24. Rather, he superimposes that onto the text–given the extratextual assumption that God can’t justly hold them responsible unless they enjoy libertarian freedom. Yet that is never stated or implied in his prooftext.

ii) What is more, Arminian1 is simply begging the question in favor of libertarian action theory. It’s “hard to swallow” if you happen to be a libertarian. It “only makes good sense” if you happen to be a libertarian. But that’s hardly convincing to a compatibilist. Arminian1 is assuming what he needs to prove.

“This is a rather blatant non sequitur. Just because two systems share a key contention does not make them equivalent nor suggest that they should be…It’s common sense observation of common understanding of interpersonal causality.”

i) And it’s up to Arminian1 to show how his model of “interpersonal causality” can avoid open theism.

ii) BTW, that’s a revealing phrase. Does Arminian1 think that God is God a contingent being? That his decisions are contingent on human decisions?

“I also challenge the idea that we need to recast the debate in stringent philosophical language. While I respect philosophy and view it as the handmaiden of theology, it carries no superiority over using common language. Indeed, it runs the risk of obscuring the issues by using language that does not match what people normally mean when communicating.”

i) Philosophical usage can certainly be superior to ordinary language. It depends on what language is being used to accomplish. Keep in mind that there’s a whole branch of philosophy devoted to the philosophy of language. Ordinary language is often vague or conceptually confused. That’s one reason we subject ordinary language to philosophical analysis.

ii) This is especially pertinent when people like Arminian1 treat ordinary language as a window to reality. As if ordinary language gives you direct access to the nature of reality. Would he derive a metaphysical scheme from idioms like “sunrise,” “time flies,” &c.?

“Moreover, I began my critique of Piper in normal language, and see no reason why I should have to change to exclusively technical, philosophical language. I remain interested in establishing that Piper’s argument is bogus.”

If you’re trying to disprove an argument, then you have to go beyond the particular choice of words to the underlying concepts.

For example, T. S. Eliot has a philosophy of time in the Four Quartets. But it would be silly to evaluate competing philosophies of time based on merely poetic imagery.

“If James needs to resort to stringent philosophical language alone to defend his position and cannot do so in normal language, then perhaps that reveals the weakness of his position and its incapability to match the real world.”

i) This assumes that ordinary language mirrors the real world. Does “kick the bucket” match the real world? What about “all bark and no bite,” or “ants in one’s pants”? Or “wet behind the ears”? “Until the cows come home”? “Take it to the cleaners”? “Throw in the towel”? “Throw caution to the wind?” “Blow your own trumpet”? “Turn tables”? “Sitting ducks”? “Skeletons in the closet”? “Spill the beans”? “Straw that broke the camel’s back”? “Rain cats and dogs”? “Rock the boat”? “Pay through the nose”? “Put the car before the horse”? “Over the moon”? “On cloud nine”? “Make a mountain out of a molehill”? “Let the cat out of the bag.” “Jump the shark”? “Have a cow”? “Get one’s goat”? “Fly by the seat of one’s pants”? “Elephant in the room”? “Change of heart”? “Eat crow”? “Chew the cud”? “Open a can of worms”? “Beat a dead horse”? “Bring home the bacon”?

Arminian1 must be living in Alice in Wonderland if he thinks ordinary language maps onto reality.

ii) Perhaps it reflects the weakness of Arminian1’s position that he can’t translate his pretty metaphors into literal propositions.

“So my comment was an assertion and James’ was not? Why should I have to demonstrate the coherence of my claim and James does not need to?”

i) Well, I suppose that depends on what Arminian1 is trying to accomplish here. Is he trying to win the argument, or merely win the debate? If he’s a truth-seeker rather than a demogogue then he needs to make a case for his position. He owes that much to himself. If he has no good reasons for what he believes, then his beliefs are unfounded. In addition, he’s also accountable to God for what he believes about God. So he has epistemic duties quite apart from whatever epistemic duties Dr. Anderson may or may not have.

For his part, Dr. Anderson has to prioritize his time. He has duties to his students.

Since Arminian1 resorts to the last-ditch tactic of elephant-hurling, it’s quite understandable if Dr. Anderson doesn’t have the time to shoot down every flying pachyderm.

ii) Moreover, Dr. Anderson was simply examining the respective consequences of two logical alternatives: either God is timeless or God is temporal. Those are clearly distinct alternatives.

By contrast, what it means to claim that God is a little bit of both is far from clear. To claim that God is partly timeless and partly temporal. For one thing, that attributes contrary predicates to the same being with the same nature.

“Nevertheless, let me say here that James’ view lacks coherence in that he believes that God does not exist in a series of moments, yet he agrees that God can act in the series of moments humans inhabit. It is unclear how his view can account for this.”

Well, Dr. Anderson can speak for himself, but Arminian1 is assuming, without benefit of argument, that God can only bring about some event if the divine agent is, himself, operating within the stream of time. Why make that assumption–especially when Arminian1 wants to say that God is timeless?

Arminian1 seems to view divine causality like a game of chess where God makes a move, then the other player makes a move, then God makes a countermove, and so on and so forth_as if what God does must be intercalated within a series of events. Discrete, sequential fiats.

It doesn’t seem to occur to him that God might effect the entire outcome as a given totality. That God instantiates the whole history of the world by a single timeless fiat.

“Since God can operate inside and outside of time according to both me and James, it follows that he can be both inside and outside of time, which James seems to define as a series of moments.”

Arminian1 seems to think that if he can use certain words in certain combinations, then this solves the problem. But all he’s done is to supply a purely verbal harmonization. A linguistic artifact. He hasn’t begun to show that the concepts denoted by the words are logically harmonious.

“I think Ross believes there is at least one extra time dimension as well as extra space dimensions.”

What’s the extra time dimension? Define it? Where’s the argument for an extra time dimension? Where’s the argument that an extra time dimension harmonizes divine foreknowledge with indeterminism?

“It is false that a block view of the universe necessarily contradicts libertarian freewill. Many assume this, apparently because of the basic and false assumption that certainty = necessity, while James has admitted to the fundamental distinction between the two.”

i) The distinction between certainty and necessity does nothing to salvage libertarian freewill with certainty. If the outcome is certain, then it can’t go either way. If the outcome is an object of knowledge, then it can’t go either way.

ii) More to the point, my objection didn’t turn on the relation between certainty and necessity. Rather, it was based on the specific content of the block theory. Remember, Arminian1 chose to introduce that theory into the debate, not me. And to judge by what he’s said thus far, I doubt that Arminian1 has the slightest idea of what he’s talking about. Here’s what a science writer, in a standard monograph on time and space, has to say:

“Another common label for the static conception of time is the ‘block view,’ and for understandable reasons. Think of a long, solid crystalline block embedded within which are small plastic figures in various poses. If the substantivalist view is correct, this is essentially our condition, save that the block we are embedded in extends through time as well as space, and so is a four-dimensional rather than three-dimensional entity. All the people frozen in different poses at different places and times in this block are equally real; indeed some of these people are you, as you were yesterday and at sill earlier times, and tomorrow and at still later times. Although all the contents of the block are permanent fixtures it is a mistake to suppose that the block is a thing that endures. The block does not exist in time as we do; it would be more accurate to say that time is in the block, for time is simply one of the dimensions that the block possesses. Viewed as a whole, the block is an eternal (or sempiternal) entity,” B. Dainton, Time & Space (McGill-Queen’s 2001), 8.

“Most of us tend to assume that, even if the past is fixed, the future is open: what it will bring is as yet undetermined. If the block view is true this is wrong, for the future is jut as real, solid and immutable as the past. How our lives will unfold from now until the moment of our deaths is (in a manner of speaking) already laid down. How could it be otherwise if the future stages of our lives are just as real as the past stages?…If the block view is true, the choices we will make are inscribed in the fabric of reality imprecisely the same way as the choices we have already made. While those who find this ‘temporal determinism’ unsettling will be inclined to reject the conception of time from which it derives, it would be a mistake to suppose that the static view must be false simply because it has unpalatable consequences. The universe is under no obligation to conform to our preconceptions or preferences,” ibid. 9.

To judge by his performance thus far, this is Arminian1’s modus operandi: he thinks that just about anything is preferable to Calvinism. Therefore, he gloms onto to any half-baked, half-remembered, half-understood thing he’s read somewhere that might possibly deflect Calvinism.

“Moreover, Ross, who is a credentialed physicist, and whom William Lane Craig considers ‘evangelicalism's most important scientific apologist’, obviously does not see it the way Steve does, since he advocates free will and the idea that God could use extra dimensions to know the future without irresistibly causing it.”

Since he doesn’t have an argument to fall back on, he resorts to an appeal to authority. Well, to my knowledge, most “credentialed physicists” are atheists. Therefore, Arminian1 should be an atheist.

For that matter, some credentialed physicists (e.g. John Byl) are Calvinists. Therefore, Arminian1 ought to be a Calvinist.

“Such travel may well be impossible for human beings because of limited technology and the fragility of the human body to accelerate to the speed required to travel to the future. But God is limited by neither. Moreover, if one can go at the speed of light, he can travel to the future and not experience any passage of time. And God can certainly travel at the speed of light.”

God can certainly travel at the speed of light if God is certainly a physical being–like a beam of light.

“Moreover, under this same sort of accepted scientific paradigm, backward time travel is possible if one can travel faster than the speed of light (Hawking, 107). And God can obviously travel faster than the speed of light. Indeed, he can travel with unlimited speed. Is James limiting God's power?”

i) Is infinite speed a meaningful concept?

ii) What reason is there to think that God can “obviously travel faster than the speed of light?”

Is God a physical being? Can a physical being travel faster than light speed?

And if God is not a physical being, then what reason is there to think that he can move at all?

iii) If you identify God as a physical being, then you automatically limit his power.

“Another way that time travel is possible, whether backward or forward is to warp space-time. Scientists think this is theoretically possible but doubt whether humans could do it, or do it long enough to be of any value, or be able to endure traveling in that way. But none of this is a problem for God. He can warp space-time, create what are known as wormholes, keep a wormhole open as long as he wants, and endure anything any wormhole or other entity could dish out. He is the almighty God.”

Is he God almighty? Or is he a superhero from a Marvel comic book? Arminian1 worships a god by the name of Dr. Manhattan. I’ll stick with Yahweh.

“If so, then God can certainly travel back in time.”

Even if we stipulate to all this science fiction, it still suffers from two crippling liabilities:

i) A timeless God can’t travel through time.

ii) Time-travel doesn’t explain how God could know the future if the future is indeterminate. Even if time-travel were possible, that doesn’t mean the future is indeterminate. Indeed, time-travel, to the extent that it’s coherent at all, would be more coherent on a block view or B-theory of time.

Keep in mind that the individual who first attempted to offer a scientifically rigorous defense of time-travel was Kurt Gödel. And he was actually using that to argue for a static view of time.

“Something that makes much of this even unnecessary to say, and that I mentioned in passing in my last post, is that God is omnipresent. But according to standard, current scientific understanding, an omnipresent being would know the past present, and future.”

i) This assumes that omnipresence is a literal attribute rather than a spatial metaphor.

ii) Moreover, that does nothing to harmonize freewill with indeterminism. Even if a literally ubiquitous being could know the past, present, and future, this doesn’t mean that time is indeterminate. To the contrary, that might require a block view of time–which precludes indeterminism.

“It is well known that time stops at the speed of light.”

Is that a fact? What about cyclical cosmologies? If time stops at the speech of light, then is it meaningful to speak of an earlier or later universe?

“Then when discussing a certain experiment, Greene seems implicitly to agree that the halting of time at the speed of light would make for a perspective in which all moments are the same moment, and that this perspective would provide the ability to ‘know’ something that would be later in the time perspective and apply it to something that would be earlier in the time perspective (512 note 4)…The point is that well established scientific theory seems to provide for a being like God having the ability to know the future without irresistibly causing it and to act on this knowledge.”

Once again, even if we grant all the dubious assumptions for the sake of argument, it doesn’t follow that Greene is describing a wide-open future. It doesn’t follow that Greene’s scenario is consistent with a wide-open future. Arminian1 is illicitly jumping from the notion of time travel to the notion that the future is open-ended.

“Now, I want to stress that I am not saying that any of these ways is the way that God knows the future free actions of human beings. There could be any number of other ways that he could do this that we haven’t begun to understand or that are beyond any laws of science. The point is that even current scientific understanding can explain how a being like God could know the future without irresistibly causing it and even act based on that knowledge. And yet God is not limited by the laws of physics. He created them. So we have good reason to believe he can know the future without irresistibly causing it. And James’ objection to the Arminian view of foreknowledge as impossible is partly undermined by these facts.”

Time-travel paradoxes are logical or metaphysical paradoxes, not physical paradoxes. Expanding the laws of nature does nothing to resolve the grandfather paradox (to take one example). Arminian1 doesn’t even grasp the nature of the problem.

“But the Arminian view is actually based on Scripture and Scripture’s incompatibility with determinism and its attestation of free will among other things.”

Where does Scripture attest libertarian freewill?

“It is not really an appeal to mystery, at least not in the way Steve paints it nor in the way that Calvinists often use it, to shield logical contradictions in their system from rational scrutiny.”

In 5 years of nonstop blogging, much of it in defense of Calvinism, I can’t think of any occasion where I appealed to mystery to shield the “logical contradictions” of my system from rational scrutiny.

“Notice that I said 'when there are various models that can conceivably account for this'. What I meant was that since it is possible in light of various reasonable options, it is unwise to claim it is impossible because one's view of the one option one think best sees it that way.”

What’s he’s offered is a snow job. A blizzard of fanciful conjectures and just-so stories. And even if we granted some of their dubious assumptions, his conclusion has yet to follow.

“Traditionally, it has been held to make it possible for God to know the future without irresistibly causing it”

That’s hardly an argument.

“It does make use of mystery in the sense that, although we know it is possible, we cannot know the exact way God knows the future free actions of human beings since Scripture does not tell us how he does.

He hasn’t even established that it’s possible, much less probable, much less true.

“But it does not matter for the reasonability of the view how God can do it, just that he can do it.”

Whether or not an agent can do something is frequently and intimately bound up with how he’d do it. If someone assures me that he can do whatever Spiderman can do, I’m afraid that I’d insist on knowing how he does it before I’d credit his claim.

Of course, if it were a revealed truth that God knows what libertarian agents will do, then we could take that on faith.

“Similarly, it is a caution to tread lightly in an area in which our knowledge is so limited…”

His modesty is insincere inasmuch as Arminian1 repeatedly states this as a live possibility.

“Suffice it to say here that I do think that retrocausation can be evaluated, and that I think that more than one working theory of time allows for God to know the future without irresistibly causing it and to be able to act on that knowledge.”

His “working” theories of time are more like siesta theories of time.

“He was addressing the common Calvinist argument that if God knows something will certainly happen, then that must mean it is necessary and that the future actions of human beings cannot be free, but must be necessitated by God.”

i) That’s a straw man argument. Certainty, quite apart from necessity, is sufficient to disprove an open-ended future.

ii) Moreover, the fact that “necessity” and certainty are conceptually distinct doesn’t mean they’re separable in practice. It doesn’t mean you can have one without the other.

“God's foreknowledge tracks whatever the person will actually do and is based on it.”

And since a person will only do one thing at a time, the outcome is certain. And if God knows it, then it cannot be other than what God knows it to be.

Conversely, if it can be otherwise, then either God was mistaken or else the timeline he foresaw is supplanted by different timeline with an alternate past and future.

“In either view, what would be considered God’s foreknowledge from the human time-bound perspective would be contingent on the prayer.”

Would it? Or would it be contingent on God’s will to decree that prayer, decree the answer to prayer, and providentially effect both the prayer and the answer to prayer.

“It is not merely that God made the decision first, but that he made the decision unconditionally; he alone thought up the thing he wanted to happen, decides to make it happen, then irresistibly causes someone to ask him to do it, then does it. In such a scheme, the request for him to do it does not really influence him to do it nor cause him to do it in any meaningfully causative way.”

i) And how is that a problem, exactly? Why should God be influenced (much less have his answer “caused”) by the supplicant? Doesn’t God already know what the supplicant needs? Didn’t God put the supplicant in that needy situation in the first place?

ii) And why does Arminian1 object to God causing human beings to do things, but has no problem with human beings causing God to do things?

“Piper's main argument is nonsensical IMO…IMO, Calvinism/determinism undermines a biblical concept of prayer.”

In my experience, those who use that abbreviation rarely live up to the abbreviation.

“God decided that on his own and then irresistibly caused the prayer and that which was requested.”

So Arminian1 doesn’t think that God decides things on his own. Do we help in make decisions? Did we help him decide to make us before he made us?

Finally, Arminian one seems to think Anderson’s position is inconsistent because our prayers can’t be causes unless our prayers can “affect” or “influence” God.

However, Dr. Anderson never said our prayers affect God. Rather, he said they (sometimes) affect the outcome. So he carefully delineated the causal scope of prayer.

As he put it: “Piper isn’t suggesting that our prayers are the causes of God’s decisions about how to answer those prayers; that would indeed be inconsistent with Calvinism (and with your Arminianism, as I’ve argued). Rather, our prayers are the causes of the answers to those prayers. For example, my prayer that Betty recovers from her illness is a cause of Betty’s recovery (but not of God’s eternal decision to foreordain that Betty recover as a result of my prayer).”

Arminian1 may not agree with that explanation. He may not think it satisfies his arbitrary requirement for “interpersonal causality.” But he hasn’t shown it to be incoherent. Prayer can be a contributing factor to an event without causing God to cause the event.

“This note from the NET Bible on Jer 29:12 explains why:
‘The verbs are vav consecutive perfects and can be taken either as unconditional futures or as contingent futures. See GKC §112.kk and §159.g and compare the usage in Gen 44:22 for the use of the vav consecutive perfects in contingent futures. The conditional clause in the middle of 29:13 and the deuteronomic theology reflected in both Deut 30:1-5 and 1 Kgs 8:46-48 suggest that the verbs are continent futures here. For the same demand for wholehearted seeking in these contexts which presuppose exile see especially Deut 30:2, 1 Kgs 8:48.’”


There are three problems with this alternative:

i) Jeremiah specifies a terminus ad quem for the exile (after 70 years). If, however, the term of the exile is actually indefinite, then God can’t make good on the terms of his promise. So the Arminian escape clause impugns the veracity of God.

ii) This alternative also fails to take into account the corporate nature of the promise. Yes, there’s a sense in which it’s contingent on human obedience, but that doesn’t mean it’s contingent on the obedience of every single exile. Law-keepers and covenant-breakers don’t necessarily share the same fate. Indeed, that’s often distinct–even in this life.

iii) Calvinism can harmonize the certainty of the promise with the contingency of the conditions since God is ultimately responsible for their compliance. Therefore, Calvinism can do full justice to the passage. By contrast, Arminianism sacrifices certainty in the interests of contingency. Calvinism repudiates that unscriptural dichotomy.