Showing posts with label pretribulationism. Show all posts
Showing posts with label pretribulationism. Show all posts

Tuesday, July 31, 2018

Left Behind

40 Then two men will be in the field; one will be taken and one left. 41 Two women will be grinding at the mill; one will be taken and one left (Mt 24:40-41).

This is a stock prooftext for the pretribulational rapture. There are, however, problems with that inference:

i) In the pretrib scheme, as I understand it, Jesus first comes for his people (the rapture), followed by the great tribulation (7 years), followed by the Second Coming proper. But the text in Mt 24 doesn't separate a rapture from the Parousia, with the great tribulation in-between. So a pretriber must interject that distinction into the text. 

That doesn't disprove his position. He can claim that his position is a synthesis of many different passages. But that means he's plugging Mt 24:40-41 into a larger frame of reference. He can't derive a pretribulational scheme directly from vv40-41. But in that case it can't be a prooftext for the pretrib position. Rather, it takes that reference frame for granted. So the appeal is circular. 

ii) That still leaves the question of what event vv40-41 represent. Hard to say for sure since the imagery is rather vague. Based on the comparison with Noah's flood (vv37-39) as well as angels rounding up the elect (v31), the imagery might suggest God evacuating the elect from the danger zone. Those "left behind" face the judgment. The elect are physically separated from the wicked. Sequestered for their own protection. For instance, Noah's family was taken into the ark to protect them while the wicked were left outside to drown.

iii) Then there's the question of how literally to take the implicit imagery. Does all this happen on earth? Are the elect evacuated to a refuge somewhere on earth while the damned are exposed to judgment elsewhere on earth? Are the elect transported to a parallel universe containing an Edenic earth while the original earth becomes a global hellhole?  

Saturday, July 28, 2018

Who Is Left Behind? The Wicked or the Righteous?

I am not pretribulational, but I believe those who are left behind in Matt 24 are the wicked and those taken are the righteous.

Sometimes I get the sense that people want to believe that those who are taken are the wicked for judgment because they don't want to share the same view with the Left Behind movie on this point. There is another reason why interpreters have wrongly thought that those who are left are the righteous.

I am posting a video where I was recently interviewed on this topic. I don't intend to start an eschatology debate. My intention here is to bring to light some evidence that is practically ignored in the literature, both scholarly and popular. My point in this interview is to explain that the separation that occurs at the parousia depicted in Matt 24:31 is ignored in every discussion when this topic is broached.
“And he will send his angels with a loud trumpet blast, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.” (Matt 24:31)
And yet, it is the most important point, because the illustrations of those taken and left behind are relating back to the parousia event. It is the whole point of invoking the illustrations, similitudes, and parables in the first place. In addressing this topic, so many interpreters begin by first going outside Matt 24, rather than first starting with the immediate context. 

I also bring to light some meanings of Greek words and correcting a certain bad rendering in many English translations.

Listen to the entire interview before drive-by commenting!






Friday, February 13, 2015

Hyper-Dispensationalist Doug Stauffer

Typically, hyper-dispenationalists invest ultimate authority into an early 17th century Anglican English translation of the Bible (aka KJV 1611).

But if you have never been exposed to what hyper-dispensationlists believe, here is a flavor:
According to Stauffer, Paul is THE spokesman for the church age (p. 17); the general epistles of Hebrews to Revelation, while containing some church age applications, are actually written for Great Tribulation saints (pp. 20, 27); salvation is obtained by works during the Tribulation (p. 23); Hebrews and James do not teach eternal security (pp. 23, 29); Peter did not preach the gospel of the grace of God (p. 26); the seven churches of Revelation 1-3 are not the body of Christ (p. 29); the epistle of first John teaches that salvation is through works (p. 56); the book of Acts was not given “to show how to establish the local church or its functions” (p. 72), Abraham had to keep his salvation through works (p. 175).
 http://www.wayoflife.org/index_files/beware_of_hyper_dispensatinalism.html

Basically Doug Stauffer believes less than 40% (or 35%) of the NT applies to Christians: Minus the Gospels, Acts, Hebrews and other epistles, and the book of Revelation.

Marcion anyone?