We got to stream the debate at our church, 75-25 Christian-to-atheist ratio in attendance. Craig obliterated Hitchens; that was no surprise. Hitch was not at the top of his game, for reasons unknown to me. His usually witty and insulting comments did not catch the plane with him, apparently, and that's about the only thing he has going for him.
For those of you who buy commentaries, Grant Osborne's "Matthew" in the ZEC series which is coming out in November is being sold on Amazon for 67% off. That price probably won't last long.
Thanks for letting us know, Saint and Sinner. That is a good price. For those who don't know, the commentary is supposed to be more than a thousand pages long.
"For this reason God will send upon them a deluding influence so that they will believe what is false, in order that they all may be judged who did not believe the truth, but took pleasure in wickedness." (2 Thessalonians 2:11-12)
There may be a secularizing trend in Europe and the UK (if you discount the Muslims), but those countries are committing demographic suicide. They're not developed so much as declining powers. (Also, I've read that there's an Evangelical resurgence in parts of England.)
Christianity is expanding in China and the S. Hemisphere.
And, in our own country, according to the latest statics, what we see is not a secularizing trend, but a polarizing trend:
" In our country there is a two-fold phenomena taking place: some are no longer finding it necessary or desirable to keep a veneer of Christian identification, while those who are having a religous experience are embracing it in its more traditional or conservative forms."
http://blog.bible.org/bock/node/459
So, other than wishful thinking, I don't know what Aaron's claim is based on.
Douglas Geivett has provided a review of the debate on his blog.
ReplyDeleteWe got to stream the debate at our church, 75-25 Christian-to-atheist ratio in attendance.
ReplyDeleteCraig obliterated Hitchens; that was no surprise. Hitch was not at the top of his game, for reasons unknown to me. His usually witty and insulting comments did not catch the plane with him, apparently, and that's about the only thing he has going for him.
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ReplyDeleteFor those of you who buy commentaries, Grant Osborne's "Matthew" in the ZEC series which is coming out in November is being sold on Amazon for 67% off. That price probably won't last long.
(Normally $50)
Thanks for letting us know, Saint and Sinner. That is a good price. For those who don't know, the commentary is supposed to be more than a thousand pages long.
ReplyDeleteIt is absolutely stunning and awe-inspiring to witness the incredible and rapid shift away from faith among people in the developed world.
ReplyDeleteAaron,
ReplyDeleteWhat is that claim based on?
No, Aaron, it's not that shocking.
ReplyDelete"For this reason God will send upon them a deluding influence so that they will believe what is false, in order that they all may be judged who did not believe the truth, but took pleasure in wickedness." (2 Thessalonians 2:11-12)
Aaron has yet to back up his claim.
ReplyDeleteThere may be a secularizing trend in Europe and the UK (if you discount the Muslims), but those countries are committing demographic suicide. They're not developed so much as declining powers. (Also, I've read that there's an Evangelical resurgence in parts of England.)
Christianity is expanding in China and the S. Hemisphere.
And, in our own country, according to the latest statics, what we see is not a secularizing trend, but a polarizing trend:
" In our country there is a two-fold phenomena taking place: some are no longer finding it necessary or desirable to keep a veneer of Christian identification, while those who are having a religous experience are embracing it in its more traditional or conservative forms."
http://blog.bible.org/bock/node/459
So, other than wishful thinking, I don't know what Aaron's claim is based on.