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Thursday, April 07, 2011

UNCG Outreach Report 4-6-2011

Yesterday's outreach at UNCG was very profitable as I had the opportunity to speak one-on-one to a wide variety of unbelievers over a 4.5 hour period.  I spoke with four Muslims, several skeptics, a few false converts, some hedonists, a couple of pluralists, a few Moralistic Therapeutic Deists, a few who were ready to listen, and at least two Christians.  I also had the opportunity to give out a few small ESV Bibles.  I spoke with nearly every variety of unbelieving college student yesterday and had the opportunity to engage them in pleasant and cordial discussion, even when we strongly disagreed.  Being a good listener and asking follow-up questions to understand the unbeliever's perspective was helpful in avoiding misrepresentation and to further productive conversation, but I'll touch on that a little later in this post.

Question of the day:  "Does absolute truth exist?"

After introducing myself and using that lead in question to start a conversation, I heard the following objections, questions, and statements:
  1. I don't need anybody's forgiveness!
  2. How do you know the Bible is really the word of God?
  3. If God would appear right in front of me, then I'd believe in Him.
  4. How can God send people to Hell who have never heard of Jesus?
  5. How can Allah send people to Hell simply because they don't believe that Jesus is God?
  6. What about the atrocities of the Crusades?
  7. We can't know anything for certain.
  8. I believe in absolute truth, but truth varies from person to person.
  9. Why do I need to become a Christian when I believe in God and am just as happy as you are?
  10. To each his own!
  11. Why did Jesus have to die on the cross?
  12. Why does God need people to worship Him?  That seems selfish.
  13. I was born a Christian!
  14. I'm a Christian, but I think God accepts everybody regardless of their religion.
  15. Why do I have to presuppose the God of the Bible in order to make sense of my experience?
  16. Which God?
  17. These types of disagreements cause war, strife, and bloodshed!
Asking follow-up questions like "How do you know that?", "Why?", and "Why Not?" as well as stating "Let me review what I think I heard you say so that I can make sure I don't misunderstand or misrepresent you" were absolutely critical for furthering the conversation when strong disagreement became evident.  Consider the following examples from yesterday's outreach.

Statement # 1 above, "I don't need anybody's forgiveness!"  A  young man made this statement after I had explained the gospel to him and his other two friends.  His body language indicated that he was upset that God would be angry with him for his sins.  He was also obviously put off by the idea that he would have to ask God for mercy and put his sole trust in the cross-work of Jesus Christ in order to be forgiven.  His personality (from what I could glean in the fifteen minutes that I spoke with him) was that of a strong (physically and psychologically), proud, confident young man.  Thus, a God that demanded his submission and allegiance was naturally repulsive, offensive, and ludicrous to him (Rom. 8:7-8; 1 Cor. 1:18; 2:14; 2 Cor. 2:15-16).  I responded to his assertion with a simple "Why not?  Please explain why you think you don't need God's forgiveness."  He was stumped in a good way, but quickly shrugged his shoulders and confidently retorted, "I don't know and really don't care."  Though this was a negative response, I still was able to finish the conversation in a positive way after receiving his potentially conversation-ending retort simply because I asked him for clarifying questions and showed a genuine interest in listening to him even though he was somewhat difficult to interact with.  He and his friends shook my hand, thanked me for the conversation and I was off to the next person.

Question # 16, "Which God?"  I responded to this person by asking, "What do you mean by that?"  I then shut up and let them explain themselves.  Once they did, I then pointed out how all of the major world religions have competing and contradictory truth claims and so cannot be all true.  They agreed, and this allowed me to explain why the Biblical gospel is the truth.

Assertion # 7, "We can't know anything for certain."  The young man that said this was the hedonistic "class clown" type of unbeliever that was with a friend who was just like him.  I can't recall anything that he said that was in the least bit serious.  Not only that, he was clearly "performing" in front of his goof-off buddy, so he wasn't planning on being serious.  After he made the above assertion, I asked, "Are you certain about that?" and he responded, "Nope, I can't know anything for certain, including that.  Sh*t, I don't even know if I exist!"  Although I wanted to slap him to prove to him that he really existed, instead I responded, "If you don't know that you exist, then who is talking to me right now?", he responded, "H*ll man, I don't know."  I said, "You're not really interested in having a serious conversation are you?" and he said, "Naw man, I just want to have fun!"  I then said, "Well, have a nice day" and strangely enough, they both thanked me for the profitless conversation!  Go figure.  The above interaction probably lasted less than a minute.  I point that out to exhort you to avoid wasting time with people like this.  You may be tempted to continue to try to reason with them, but when you get the type of nonsense responses I just described, you are wasting your time, so move on and find someone who will intelligently converse with you.   

Assertion # 3, "If God would appear right in front of me, then I'd believe in Him."  My response to this young man was, "How would you know that it was really God?  How do you know you weren't hallucinating?  How would you know that it wasn't a demon or a space alien?"  He said, "Highly unlikely" but his friend answered, "No, it's not, you don't really know."  It was then that I began to deconstruct this young man's empiricism and then pointed out to him that there's all kinds of things that we believe in that we don't and can't experience through the five senses (i.e., the existence of other minds, logical laws, etc.).  Then he seemed more willing to listen to what I had to say.

IN CONCLUSION, it is important that we think about how to intelligently and courteously interact with the above questions and assertions while giving Biblical answers.  All of the above encounters (except the one with the hedonists), allowed for a profitable conversation that led to a full presentation of the gospel.  Some of these unbelievers (i.e., the Muslims) had never heard an explanation of why the cross of Christ is necessary for salvation.  This is extremely important since the very thing that Islam repudiates is the only thing that can save them from sin and provide the necessary grounds for forgiveness without making Allah unjust (Pro. 17:15; Rom. 3:26).  Examples like this could be multiplied from yesterday, but the important thing is to be ready to answer with gentleness and respect, thus earning an opportunity to speak the truth in love (Eph. 4:15). 

8 comments:

  1. I follow these posts with great diligence and commend you for your efforts on behalf of the gospel, sir.

    With respect to your conversation with the "young hedonist" who wouldn't affirm his own existence, I agree that such conversations are frequently unprofitable. But you can sometimes bring such a person up short simply by responding to "I don't even know that I exist" with "Who doesn't know?" This forces him to use the word "I" again; a raised eyebrow usually underscores the point.

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  2. "Examples like this could be multiplied from yesterday, but the important thing is to be ready to answer with gentleness and respect, thus earning an opportunity to speak the truth in love (Eph. 4:15)."

    Have you ever seen gentleness and respect treated with rudeness and derision and disrespect?

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  3. Ken,

    "But you can sometimes bring such a person up short simply by responding to "I don't even know that I exist" with "Who doesn't know?" This forces him to use the word "I" again; a raised eyebrow usually underscores the point."

    Excellent point. Thank you.

    "Have you ever seen gentleness and respect treated with rudeness and derision and disrespect?"

    Quite frequently when I'm engaging in open-air preaching, especially outside the abortion clinic.

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  4. I find the constant Islamic complaint about the Crusades as very hypocritical. Syria, Palestine, Egypt, North Africa, Asia Minor, and Spain were all Christian lands until conquered by Islamic armies and the Crusades were a reaction to that. There wouldn't have been any crusades if the Arabs had not invaded those areas.

    Not that I'm justifying them but if they're going to raise Crusades, why shouldn't I raise the invasion of Egypt in the 640's by the Arabs or the sacking of Constantinople in 1453 by the Turks? It's funny how the Christian West has forgotten that (though I think many Eastern Christians feel differently) but Muslims act as if the Crusades happened yesterday.

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  5. Grifman,

    The Muslims usually don't bring up the issue of the crusades, but sometimes they do. I actually was listening to a panel debate a few days ago with a Muslim on it and he brought up the Crusades. I thought, "Wow, talk about the pot calling the kettle black!"

    Also, one of the facts that people seem to forget when talking about the Crusades is that if the attempted Islamization of Europe never happened, then the Protestant reformation would have never taken place. Indeed, God works all things together for our good and His glory.

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  6. "Does absolute truth exist?"

    Most people operate under the presupposition that truth does exist. That is: what's true ... IS. To deny that would be a recipe for either nihilism or insanity.

    I think the better question is: how much truth can we know of anything, and how does one know what is true?

    I don't think you're suggesting that all truths are entirely knowable to any human in this life.

    Perhaps you're suggesting that some truths are entirely knowable? That is: you can gain knowledge of all possible properties of some things, people or ideas. This too, is problematic, though: no matter how well I may know someone, there will remain things that remain a secret to them. We could even say this about ourselves.

    I think the best we have is that some truths are reasonably or sufficiently knowable so as to be able to act on that knowledge. Would you agree?

    So how, then, do we gain this sufficient knowledge? Experience. Observation. Consensus of opinion among other observers. Do you think this is applicable to the truths of the Bible as well?

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  7. Dusman said:

    "Also, one of the facts that people seem to forget when talking about the Crusades is that if the attempted Islamization of Europe never happened, then the Protestant reformation would have never taken place. Indeed, God works all things together for our good and His glory."

    Ok, you've got me there. I've read a lot of history but I've never heard that explanation before. Can you elaborate more about that line of reasoning? You've got my curiosity up. Thanks.

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  8. James,

    "I think the best we have is that some truths are reasonably or sufficiently knowable so as to be able to act on that knowledge. Would you agree?"

    Yes, with the understanding that those truths while not exhaustively known are indeed absolute, i.e., they are objective.

    "So how, then, do we gain this sufficient knowledge? Experience. Observation. Consensus of opinion among other observers. Do you think this is applicable to the truths of the Bible as well?"

    Yes, but with some qualifications. For instance, consensus doesn't necessarily determine Biblical truth, for the consensus must be checked by a standard external to it, namely, God's word. According to Scripture, God has revealed some things to people such that they can know them with certainty though not exhaustively. For example, I can know for certain that 2+2 = 4 in base 10 though I need not have exhaustive knowledge of the principles of mathematics. So it is with basic logical laws and moral laws and it is the same with Scriptural principles (i.e., God exists, the gospel is true).

    Grifman,

    "I've read a lot of history but I've never heard that explanation before. Can you elaborate more about that line of reasoning? You've got my curiosity up. Thanks."

    The general idea is that the crusades forced the Christian scholars to flee Byzantium and go into Europe taking their ancient and medieval copies of the Scriptures with them. This was generally concurrent with the pre-reformation movements that were already occurring and thus a major factor in promoting the principle of ad fontes. It's been a long time since I heard an explanation of this historical development, but you may be able to hear about it here: http://blip.tv/file/2698016

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