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Monday, April 27, 2020

ET religion

This post will be speculative.

1. Confirmed military footage of UFOs heightens longstanding questions about the status of UFOs:


2. On the one hand it's odd that the Pentagon would confirm the existence of military technology superior to our own. That's an admission that we're vulnerable to military conquest. Some regime or entity has technology that could defeat us. Render us defenseless. Perhaps it's not specifically military technology, but it seems to have a military application that could neutralize our own technology.

3. This also raises the source. Is it terrestrial or extraterrestrial? Naturalistic or supernatural/paranormal?

Is it terrestrial technology produced by another country or corporation? If so, you'd expect the Pentagon to know the identity. 

4. Obama let our national security assets slide. He allowed Chinese agents to hack American assets with impunity. He redirected NASA to focus on global warming. He tried to sabotage Israeli national security while enabling Iran to develop nuclear weapons. So it's possible that we're behind.

5. There are now corporations richer than many countries that might have the R&D resources to develop next-generation military technology, either independently or in collaboration with a nation state

6. Another naturalistic explanation, albeit more farfetched, is intervention from ETs. A stock objection to ETs is that the distance is prohibitive. But perhaps 20C physics is mistaken about the cosmic speed limit. 

Yet from what I've read, even if superliminal travel as possible, that results in backward time travel. A traveler moving faster than light is moving into the past. Assuming that's correct, it's unclear how ETs could get here that way.

7. Another issue is that if these are ETs, why are they so elusive? If they wish to conceal their existence from humans, their behavior is very careless. But if they wish for us to be aware of their existence, why is the evidence so ambiguous? Why not make their existence unmistakable? 

8. There's nothing in Christian theology that rules out the existence of ETs. The question would be the confusing and disruptive impact that would have on human history and religion. But arguably, that's not different in principle from demonic interference.

9. Human technology is getting out of control, with experiments in animal/human and machine/human hybrids, as well as general eugenics and genetic reengineering. 

10. In theory, there are supernatural/paranormal ways to simulate advanced technology. Agents with telepathic powers could make humans hallucinate anything. Simulate convincing illusions.

However, that wouldn't explain photographic evidence inasmuch as cameras can't hallucinate. On the other hand, the UFOs seem to leave no physical trace evidence. No permanent after-effects. So in that respect it's spectral. Rather like ectoplasm, that materializes and dematerializes. 

11. Another supernatural/paranormal explanation would be psychokinesis. The ability of certain minds to directly generate or manipulate states of matter and energy to create objective physical phenomena. If, say, the source was ETs, they wouldn't have to be here to do that. They could be living millions of light years away. The effects we witness on earth would be the mental projections of their psychokinetic abilities. Mental action at a distance. 

12. Mind you, assuming that some agents have psychokinetic abilities, they don't have to be ETs. That might include angels, demons, psychic living human beings, human beings in league with demons, or damned human souls. 

13. There's also the question of whether the hypothetical ETs are benevolent or malevolent. If malevolent, they'd have the power to conquer and subjugate the human race, although they might introduce themselves as beneficent saviors of humanity. It's easy to imagine an ET religion that becomes the dominant religion, co-opting historical religions. In terms of biblical eschatology, that would be consistent with Mt 24:24 (2 Thes 2:9; Rev 13:13-14).  

14. The evidence for Christianity is copious, diverse, ancient, and modern. But it might be necessary for God and his agents to intervene to counteract their influence. If this represents an invasion force, we're no match for it, but God's agents could keep it in check. 

15. Thus far, the current pandemic doesn't seem to pose a threat to the survival of the human race. The larger threat is coming from public officials and Big Tech who use the crisis as a pretext to abrogate civil liberties and instigate a global depression. Will we end up with a worldwide Venezuela? Global social unrest would be an opportunity for the powerbrokers to take over.

16. We also see the suppression of Christianity under the guise to combatting the pandemic. Not only is public worship illegal, but depending on how long the lockdowns and mass house arrest continue, many churches will never reopen because they went broke. 

The discrimination extends to prosecuting churches that practice drive-in services as well as Tech Giants that block electronic services if they disapprove of the sermon content. 

17. Perhaps it's just coincidental that the coronavirus, which originates in a Chinese lab, from which it "escaped," is happening at about the same time that Red China has been purging Christianity in China–with the collaboration of the Vatican, I might add. 

I'm not suggesting this is a human plot. Humans aren't that smart or organized. But it could be diabolical. I don't have any firm opinion about how this episode will end. Perhaps the economy will come roaring back. 

But many churches have capitulated to a very dangerous precedent. And some churches won't recover because they were unable to bring in enough revenue to cover the overhead. Pastors will have to quit the ministry and take jobs in the private sector. 

9 comments:

  1. I haven't watched it, but Cmdr. David Fravor discussed this on Joe Rogan as well. Fravor was one of the pilots who witnessed the UFOs firsthand.

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    1. I watched that interview and thought Cmdr. Fravor came across as totally convincing and believable as an eyewitness. Pretty interesting stuff.

      I grew up intersted in unexplained phenomena (Bermuda Triangle, UFO's, ghosts/poltergeists/apparitions, the occult, etc.) and coming to Christ didn't change my natural curiosity, rather it provided perspective and additional potential categories to consider these types of phenomena from and with.

      I think it's useful both from an apologetic standpoint, as well as potentially from an eschatalogical standpoint because depending on one's interpretation of Revelation it looks like some really freaky stuff is going to happen, and believers ought to have an answer for the hope that's within us.

      And although it's an old question and the subject of many, many sci-fi movies I've still not seen a good in-depth answer from a Christian perspective - what would we as Christians expect to occur if humanity were visited/made first contact with an advanced extraterrestrial biological civilization, and what should the Christian response be?

      It's an interesting question.

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    2. By the way, here's another interview with another pilot named Chad Underwood.

      Also, this guy argues the "recently released videos are actually artifacts of the imaging technology".

      I don't really have any opinion right now since I haven't followed this very closely as I've been busy with other things. (I say this as I Homer Simpson my way back into the shrubbery.)

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    3. As for the imaging artifact challenge, that was dealt with directly by Cmdr. Fravor in the interview, and his basic response was, "I saw it with my own eyes". He went on to describe in detail what he could see vs. what his fighter jet's tech was able to see (e.g. lack of propulsion heat signature for example).

      I dunno. It's really kind of world paradigm changing stuff, but it hardly gets noticed. Weird.

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  2. Also speculative (and maybe confused):

    Interesting...

    “10. In theory, there are supernatural/paranormal ways to simulate advanced technology. Agents with telepathic powers could make humans hallucinate anything. Simulate convincing illusions.”

    Not related to UFO's, but IF this telepathic power to simulate convincing hallucinations were possible, these agents may be able to convince someone that they were elect-that they have genuine saving faith unto salvation, and the assurance that came with.
    You would have to consider what the motivation would be for them to simulate such a hallucination. Would they be "anti-Christ" if they did this?
    Or, maybe this hallucination (that one has been granted repentance and authentic faith) might have the unintended consequence (from the agent's point of view) of actually leading one to REAL faith...but if you are artificially convinced you have faith, is this real faith?
    Im not thinking about the type of works-based false assurance the ones that Christ tells to depart from him, since these people were indeed depending on their works to save them but were falsely assured they were saved.
    What i had in mind is that someone could hallucinate they had the sola fide-faith that saves. Would this hallucinated conviction that Christ atoned for their sins be effectual to save?
    If this WERE the case (that a hullucinated true faith) saved) it seems it would make one’s faith the grounding of ones salvation and not God’s sovereignty.
    It would seem tragic if someone were falsely assured by a hallucination that they had true faith only to find themselves being cast away after death by Christ because they were deceived...

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    1. By hallucination I mean a psychological illusion where an observer perceives something outside himself that isn't there or fails to perceive something outside himself that is there. That's a very different hypothetical than what you're conjecturing.

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    2. In Mt 24:24, the issue isn't direct psychological/telepathy manipulation where the reprobate are deluded into believing they are elect, but manifestations of the supernatural that would lead the elect to commit apostasy if left to their own devices.

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    3. I was thinking a hallucination could include not only a misperception of reality of the external, but also a misperception of ones own beliefs. How is a belief verified? If it’s verified by what we do: the fruit, our actions (the external), we could misperceive these external proofs and “hallucinate” our faith.
      For example we may struggle with assurance and be admonished to do things such as look to the fruits of our behaviour to verify our faith. But we don’t know if we are perceiving our behaviour correctly.
      Or, we may be admonished to look to Christ for assurance. And this would be tricky to say “where” Christ is (external to oneself or internal)-if Christ is external then we may hallucinate Him by misperceiving Him. If we perceive him by faith, we may not be able to verify this perception is real.
      I guess we have to have faith that our faith is real and find out after death if we
      perceived properly or were hallucinating.
      Both the nihilist and the highly assured individual will see clearly eventually.

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  3. many churches have capitulated to a very dangerous precedent. And some churches won't recover because they were unable to bring in enough revenue to cover the overhead. Pastors will have to quit the ministry and take jobs in the private sector.

    My church has been live-streaming its services for about 7 weeks now. Given that we are located on two college campuses (Pitt and CMU), the intellectual quality of the ministry is probably better than what you'd find in the average church. The church's YouTube channel, hastily set up, has about as many subscribers as it has Sunday worshipers. On top of that, since the membership is transitory, with many students cycling in and then back out, we've got kind of a "Steeler Nation" "out there", who have ties to the church, but who have moved to different regions (or even back to their home countries). Many of them no doubt are tuning in. So the number of people who are actually "present" is likely higher than the number of views that we are normally getting (for example, we have one "view" in my house, but there are typically three or four or five people here for a Sunday service).

    This seems to be the way a lot of things are going. For example, if a conservative college like Hillsdale College -- which offers a worldview for which a lot of people are hungering these days -- can distribute its classes online, how much of an audience will they take away from the liberal hotbeds? How many liberal churches and universities will wither and die because there is no demand for what they are selling? (Of course, we pray that the Lord will create the demand for His own teachings!)

    Online donations to our church are up too. Income is up, year over year. It's the positive side of the negative scenario here. It would be speculative, too, to say where this trend will take us. I've talked with high-end sales people who are elated that they're not having to travel every week. How long will companies tolerate that? If they can maintain the revenue, maybe that will become a "new normal". Maybe it won't be sustainable. I've talked with other people who generate a lot of their income through trade shows. "My whole trade show schedule has been wiped out" they say. Maybe that's an industry that will go the way of the telegraph. The winners will be the lucky ones who happen to be moving in the direction of this particular tide.

    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCUxmNYa3vbYcRAQPSOI2aRQ

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