"And rather than acknowledging those feelings or trying to understand or engage them in any way, Christians everywhere marched off to their local CFA like it was a cross to bear, a necessity, a battle cry of some sort, the waffle fry’s last stand."
Emotional words at best.
These kinds of 5 points are 110% emotional seems to me, and words are said without facts, but simply general statements, that a lot of people will read and nod their heads, and follow right along. sad that this man makes such foolish statements; as so many do now a days in our nicey-nicey culture.
Thanks to JP Moreland for such a well thought out response to this ridiculous 5 point statement. And thank you for posting it.
I haven't been Chick-fil-A since all this happened, but I have surely talked about a man's rights to make chicken sandwiches and sell them in Chicago and Boston.
As I talked about this tonight, I thought, am I more an American, or more a person who cares about the Gospel? Or can I be both at the same time?
I think we Christian Americans sometimes don't act fpor the Gospel as much as we should. And perhaps some of this going to buy chicken sandwiches to make a point is less concerned about the Gospel than we should be. There is a Gospel way to live in this world. I was talking with some Christians back from Croatia ministering to the Bayesh people there, and it gave me a different perspective. Just saying.
Lord bless us, and give us hearts full of Your grace, and the Gospel. Amen.
Well, perhaps it simply comes down to demeanor. Surely the Body of Christ needs to share the truth about fornication, and this particualr sin.
I just wonder if a good portion in the Body of Christ don't do this with a bit of a good works + gospel attitude. Which will be a self-righteous, better than you demeanor. Especially when two men may go and protest as homosexuals, and make out in front of the establishment. I admit I look at this with disgust. But can I really say, "But for the grace of God, there go I?"
I guess I'm saying it's not a cut and dry thing for the Church. The Gospel should make us humble, and yet bold; meek and courageous.
I appreciate the feed back. I learn much from your blog, and teachings, and thoughts.
Still trying to be a balanced follower of Christ our Savior and God.
Governor Huckabee's stance was neither here nor there for me. I saw a brother in Christ make a statement of biblical truth regarding an issue currently in public debate, and the response from those opposing that view was a call to recant or suffer the consequences. The fascist Left brooks no opposition. That signalled to me a call to step forward and be counted in support of Dan Cathy's right to voice an opinion. It is right and proper for the body of Christ to support one of its own, especially when he is criticized and threatened for standing on biblical principle.
In the various professedly evangelical responses to this matter I have been repeatedly frustrated by the handkerchief-twisting pleas that we should strive to be nicer to the unbelievers, otherwise they won't be attracted to Christ and the gospel. Well, do these people ever crack open a Bible? Don't they read Romans 1 or 1 Corinthians 1? Don't they know that unbelievers are by nature hostile to the claims of Christ and do everything they can not just to suppress the truth but revel in their disobedience and unrighteousness and encourage/approve of others doing the same? The gospel is an offense and foolishness to the world. The only thing that will convert a sinner is the sovereign act of God to turn a stony heart into flesh. Our job is to be faithful to biblical truth, to speak with gentleness, respect, love, and conviction, then let the chips fall where they may.
"And rather than acknowledging those feelings or trying to understand or engage them in any way, Christians everywhere marched off to their local CFA like it was a cross to bear, a necessity, a battle cry of some sort, the waffle fry’s last stand."
ReplyDeleteEmotional words at best.
These kinds of 5 points are 110% emotional seems to me, and words are said without facts, but simply general statements, that a lot of people will read and nod their heads, and follow right along. sad that this man makes such foolish statements; as so many do now a days in our nicey-nicey culture.
Thanks to JP Moreland for such a well thought out response to this ridiculous 5 point statement.
And thank you for posting it.
I haven't been Chick-fil-A since all this happened, but I have surely talked about a man's rights to make chicken sandwiches and sell them in Chicago and Boston.
As I talked about this tonight, I thought, am I more an American, or more a person who cares about the Gospel? Or can I be both at the same time?
ReplyDeleteI think we Christian Americans sometimes don't act fpor the Gospel as much as we should. And perhaps some of this going to buy chicken sandwiches to make a point is less concerned about the Gospel than we should be.
There is a Gospel way to live in this world.
I was talking with some Christians back from Croatia ministering to the Bayesh people there, and it gave me a different perspective.
Just saying.
Lord bless us, and give us hearts full of Your grace, and the Gospel. Amen.
How is protesting homosexual intimidation not a Gospel way to live?
DeleteWell, perhaps it simply comes down to demeanor. Surely the Body of Christ needs to share the truth about fornication, and this particualr sin.
ReplyDeleteI just wonder if a good portion in the Body of Christ don't do this with a bit of a good works + gospel attitude. Which will be a self-righteous, better than you demeanor. Especially when two men may go and protest as homosexuals, and make out in front of the establishment.
I admit I look at this with disgust. But can I really say, "But for the grace of God, there go I?"
I guess I'm saying it's not a cut and dry thing for the Church. The Gospel should make us humble, and yet bold; meek and courageous.
I appreciate the feed back. I learn much from your blog, and teachings, and thoughts.
Still trying to be a balanced follower of Christ our Savior and God.
Governor Huckabee's stance was neither here nor there for me. I saw a brother in Christ make a statement of biblical truth regarding an issue currently in public debate, and the response from those opposing that view was a call to recant or suffer the consequences. The fascist Left brooks no opposition. That signalled to me a call to step forward and be counted in support of Dan Cathy's right to voice an opinion. It is right and proper for the body of Christ to support one of its own, especially when he is criticized and threatened for standing on biblical principle.
ReplyDeleteIn the various professedly evangelical responses to this matter I have been repeatedly frustrated by the handkerchief-twisting pleas that we should strive to be nicer to the unbelievers, otherwise they won't be attracted to Christ and the gospel. Well, do these people ever crack open a Bible? Don't they read Romans 1 or 1 Corinthians 1? Don't they know that unbelievers are by nature hostile to the claims of Christ and do everything they can not just to suppress the truth but revel in their disobedience and unrighteousness and encourage/approve of others doing the same? The gospel is an offense and foolishness to the world. The only thing that will convert a sinner is the sovereign act of God to turn a stony heart into flesh. Our job is to be faithful to biblical truth, to speak with gentleness, respect, love, and conviction, then let the chips fall where they may.
Steve, this was good, you might appreciate it: http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/cut-ad-clinton-cos-ryan-guy-amazing_649942.html
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