Says Dan: "If Paul admits the common man thinks of choice as libertarian, he should address the fact that the bible was written by common men and to the common man (i.e. to the people of Israel and the church, not the semi-compatiblist) and it uses the terms choice and choose."
Jnorm888 approves: "You made a good point about it being made for the common man."
My reply: "If Dan (and Jnorm888) admits the common man thinks of choice as libertarian, he should address the fact that the Koran was written by a common man and to the common man (i.e. to the people of Mecca and Medina and the Mosques, not the semi-compatiblist, determinist, or fatalist) and it uses the terms choice and choose."
Mohammed was possessed by Satan, so he would naturally seek to convince the people of fatalism.
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ReplyDeleteThe Bible was written for the common man, but it was written for the common man as a common sinner, very often challenging our sinful and baseless preconceptions about ourselves and our autonomy. The Bible was not written to nurture our assumptions, but often to correct them.
ReplyDeletePaulSceptic never misses an opportunity to prove s/he's a raving lunatic.
ReplyDeleteGo drink your Kool-Aid elsewhere and leave the thinking to people who can actually do it.
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ReplyDeletePeresozo,
ReplyDeleteI thought I told you about offering semi-good arguments. Butt-naked assertions not allowed. Mkay?
Tell you what, to make it easy on you, since you're logically-challenged, you must at least argue at the level my 9 yr. old does.
Buh-bye.
PaulSkeptic, regarding your 1/29/2009 8:27 PM post. Just so you know my general guidelines. Off-topic comments dedicated to getting a troll's "talking points" off are not allowed.
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ReplyDeleteMohammed was possessed by Satan, so he would naturally seek to convince the people of fatalism.
1/29/2009 8:17 PM
You need to study the context.
The libertarian arminians are saying that in virtue of the very choice to use locutions that mention "choosing" and "willing" this ipso facto commits the Bible, necessarily, to libertarianism. Thus it must be so with Islam and the Koran.
Furthermore, perhaps you're possessed by Satan and are trying to convince us of libertarianism.
Why did you remove my comment about how Calvinism is more or less equivalent to The Entheogen Theory of Religion and Ego Death over at the egodeath site? The truth of what you are is just to hard to face, eh?
ReplyDeleteIts not off the topic at all. This guy believes in using drug to convince yourself you have no free will. You convince yourself of this absurdity without drugs. Yet, the similarity of lying to yourself to make yourself feel better about your evil actions is still there.
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ReplyDeleteWhy did you remove my comment about how Calvinism is more or less equivalent to The Entheogen Theory of Religion and Ego Death over at the egodeath site? The truth of what you are is just to hard to face, eh?
I told you why.
And, yeah, you caught me. I just can't face the truth. Guess what, I don't play that game either. So, one more post like this you'll find all your posts deleated when you post in my combox. You can tell yourself that it's because "I fear you" if that's what lets you sleep at night.
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Its not off the topic at all. This guy believes in using drug to convince yourself you have no free will. You convince yourself of this absurdity without drugs. Yet, the similarity of lying to yourself to make yourself feel better about your evil actions is still there.
My post wasn't about drugs. It wasn't about convincing anyone that they did or didn't have free will. If you can muster up the requistite hamster rpms on that wheel up inside your noggin, don't bother wasting the rest of our brain cells by mamking us read your nonsense and off-topic comments. Furthermore, another rule is that you can't call something absurd without offering a descent argument for your assertion. Sorry to make you have to do that, but being forced to back up your assertions will develop a virtuous intellectual character that you'll thank me for later on.
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ReplyDeleteSorry Peresoz,
ReplyDeleteYou have the guidlines, those comments were only at a 1st grade level of argumentation. Keep trying.
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