tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post953870838306099454..comments2024-03-27T17:15:37.606-04:00Comments on Triablogue: Are there few that be saved?Ryanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17809283662428917799noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-29358720376861443792009-10-19T14:34:20.999-04:002009-10-19T14:34:20.999-04:00Spurgeon said what he did because he believed all ...Spurgeon said what he did because he believed all who die in infancy go to heaven. In sermons on infant salvation, Spurgeon made this clear. He did not believe most adults were saved. <br /><br />Blessings,<br /><br />StephenStephen Garretthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10866698322854892197noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-44150788704907212752009-10-19T13:02:35.854-04:002009-10-19T13:02:35.854-04:00Charles Spurgeon was hopeful that the majority of ...Charles Spurgeon was hopeful that the majority of humanity will be saved...<br /><br />"Those individuals who try to caricature our doctrinal sentiments are in the habit of saying that we teach that God has chosen a few to be saved, and left the great majority of mankind to perish.<br /><br />They know that we have never said any such thing, and they also know that no man of any standing in our<br />denomination has ever said any such thing. On the contrary, we believe that God has ordained a countless host, so numerous that no man can number it, who shall be everlastingly saved; AND WE THINK WE HAVE SOME WARRANT FOR BELIEVING THAT THE NUMBER OF THE SAVED WILL VASTLY EXCEED THE NUMBER OF THE LOST [emphasis through caps added], that in all things Christ may have the preeminence. Certainly, whatever may be our opinion upon that matter, we rejoice that the lines of divine<br />election are not narrow, that the chosen people of God are not a mere handful; and we believe that, when the time comes for the great King to make up his jewels, it shall be found that the casket contains such multitudes of them<br />that they shall be beyond all human calculation."<br />http://www.mountzion.org/PDFs/ytir.pdf<br /><br /><br />Same with Loraine Boettner. <br /><br />Here are links to portions of his book "The Reformed Doctrine of Predestination"<br /><br />Many Are Chosen<br />http://www.ccel.org/ccel/boettner/predest.iv.iii.vii.html<br /><br />A Redeemed World Or Race http://www.ccel.org/ccel/boettner/predest.iv.iii.viii.html<br /><br /><br />****Read Especially***<br /><br />The Vastness of the Redeemed Multitude http://www.ccel.org/ccel/boettner/predest.iv.iii.ix.html<br /><br />and he based it only Post-Millennialism...<br /><br />The World Is Growing Better http://www.ccel.org/ccel/boettner/predest.iv.iii.x.html<br /><br />Just two famous Calvinists who did not dogmatically believe that there will be more lost than saved when all is said and done.<br /><br />I'm personally not dogmatic on the issue or the millennial issue.ANNOYED PINOYhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00714774340084597206noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-54379889570783014132009-10-17T19:27:06.198-04:002009-10-17T19:27:06.198-04:00Billy,
i) Quoting footnotes from a study Bible is...Billy,<br /><br />i) Quoting footnotes from a study Bible is hardly a serious way of ding exegesis. Consult some major commentaries on your prooftext–as well as any Synoptic parallels. <br /><br />ii) MacArthur is popularizer.<br /><br />iii) MacArthur's opinion hardly settles the question of whether Calvinism has an official position on the proportion of the elect to the reprobate. Can't you quote something relevant from a historic Reformed confession or creed? <br /><br />All you've established is that you haven't done any serious research on the issue, either in terms of historical theology or exegetical theology.stevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16547070544928321788noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-44909214324704134202009-10-17T19:00:30.000-04:002009-10-17T19:00:30.000-04:00I think most Calvinists have traditionally held th...I think most Calvinists have traditionally held that only few adults are saved. However, when you add in those who die in infancy, the number than goes from "few" to "many." I am sure, at least, that Jesus was referring to adults, and not to infants.<br /><br />Blessings,<br /><br />StephenStephen Garretthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10866698322854892197noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-90498017246541165882009-10-17T11:09:27.098-04:002009-10-17T11:09:27.098-04:00Reference: The MacArthur Study Bible, ed. John Mac...Reference: <em>The MacArthur Study Bible</em>, ed. John MacArthur (Nashville: Thomas Nelson, Inc., 2006), 1402.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-20494189311845767672009-10-17T11:07:00.786-04:002009-10-17T11:07:00.786-04:00John MacArthur comments on Matthew 22:14, "Fo...John MacArthur comments on Matthew 22:14, "For many are called, but few are chosen":<br /><br /><em>The call spoken of here is sometimes referred to as the "general call" (or the "external" call) - a summons to repentance and faith that is inherent in the gospel message. This call extends to all who hear the gospel. "Many" hear it; "few" respond (see the many-few comparison in 7:13-14). Those who respond are the "chosen," the elect.</em>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-63800420872939994702009-10-16T22:48:38.320-04:002009-10-16T22:48:38.320-04:00I would quantify it as many as there are stars in ...I would quantify it as many as there are stars in Heaven seeing this Psalm puts a lot on the shoulders of Our God:::><br /><br />Psa 147:4 He determines the number of the stars; he gives to all of them their names. <br />Psa 147:5 Great is our Lord, and abundant in power; his understanding is beyond measure. <br />Psa 147:6 The LORD lifts up the humble; he casts the wicked to the ground. <br /><br />I am now thinking back as a child that every "falling" star I saw in the night's sky was when God was casting the wicked to the ground like their leader, Satan, the devil, who will soon and quickly be cast into the eternal fire prepared for him and his angels:::><br /><br />Jdg 5:18 Zebulun is a people who risked their lives to the death; Naphtali, too, on the heights of the field. <br />Jdg 5:19 "The kings came, they fought; then fought the kings of Canaan, at Taanach, by the waters of Megiddo; they got no spoils of silver. <br />Jdg 5:20 From heaven the stars fought, from their courses they fought against Sisera. <br />Jdg 5:21 The torrent Kishon swept them away, the ancient torrent, the torrent Kishon. March on, my soul, with might! <br />Jdg 5:22 "Then loud beat the horses' hoofs with the galloping, galloping of his steeds. <br /><br /><br />Isa 14:12 "How you are fallen from heaven, O Day Star, son of Dawn! How you are cut down to the ground, you who laid the nations low! <br />Isa 14:13 You said in your heart, 'I will ascend to heaven; above the stars of God I will set my throne on high; I will sit on the mount of assembly in the far reaches of the north; <br />Isa 14:14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will make myself like the Most High.' <br />Isa 14:15 But you are brought down to Sheol, to the far reaches of the pit. <br />Isa 14:16 Those who see you will stare at you and ponder over you: 'Is this the man who made the earth tremble, who shook kingdoms, <br />Isa 14:17 who made the world like a desert and overthrew its cities, who did not let his prisoners go home?' <br /><br /><br />Luk 10:18 And he said to them, "I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven. <br />Luk 10:19 Behold, I have given you authority to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy, and nothing shall hurt you. <br />Luk 10:20 Nevertheless, do not rejoice in this, that the spirits are subject to you, but rejoice that your names are written in heaven." <br />Luk 10:21 In that same hour he rejoiced in the Holy Spirit and said, "I thank you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that you have hidden these things from the wise and understanding and revealed them to little children; yes, Father, for such was your gracious will. <br />Luk 10:22 All things have been handed over to me by my Father, and no one knows who the Son is except the Father, or who the Father is except the Son and anyone to whom the Son chooses to reveal him."<br /><br />Rev 22:17 The Spirit and the Bride say, "Come." And let the one who hears say, "Come." And let the one who is thirsty come; let the one who desires take the water of life without price.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com