tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post891609773207200016..comments2024-03-27T17:15:37.606-04:00Comments on Triablogue: Marian typologyRyanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17809283662428917799noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-71980020528419888642019-08-21T12:20:44.035-04:002019-08-21T12:20:44.035-04:00No I haven't. There are, however, some additio...No I haven't. There are, however, some additional issues:<br /><br />i) Catholic dogma makes a specific claim about Mary's virginity in partu. So even if we grant for argument's sake that Mary and Joseph never had sexual intercourse, that falls short of the much stronger claim regarding her virginity in partu. <br /><br />ii) In addition, even if we think that on balance, the evidence tips in favor of Mary's perpetual virginity, that's very different from elevating that to the status of dogma which obligates belief. Our belief shouldn't be stronger than the evidence. stevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16547070544928321788noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-4420425449293529362019-08-21T11:18:09.376-04:002019-08-21T11:18:09.376-04:00Steve,
I recently read Pitre’s ‘Jesus and the Jew...Steve,<br /><br />I recently read Pitre’s ‘Jesus and the Jewish Roots of Mary.’ And although I don’t agree with much of what he says, I think chapter five on the perpetual virginity is his best chapter. He makes a compelling case that the “brothers” of Jesus are the sons of Mary the wife of Clopas. Have you had a chance to interact with that specific argument? What are your thoughts?Federico Alvarezhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08516572479160032049noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-84922232306819220582019-08-21T06:24:01.363-04:002019-08-21T06:24:01.363-04:00Especially if your theology is everything has to m...Especially if your theology is everything has to map. Or I believe Psalm 69 would pose a problem.<br /><br />Psalm 69:5 You, God, know my folly;<br /> my guilt is not hidden from you.<br /><br />Psalm 69:8 I am a foreigner to my own family,<br /> a stranger to my own mother’s children;geoffrobinsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14949411893531888555noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-25189017540831796762019-08-20T23:32:21.890-04:002019-08-20T23:32:21.890-04:00Wait, if he says that Revelation 12 argues for the...Wait, if he says that Revelation 12 argues for the Assumption of Mary, then how is she a Perpetual Virgin who is having BIRTH PAINS after being assumpted?Scotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16155328940062919187noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-43079680892440873032019-08-20T22:02:43.617-04:002019-08-20T22:02:43.617-04:00Thanks for this.
I've been thinking about wha...Thanks for this.<br /><br />I've been thinking about what makes Marian typology (or Mormon or whatever) bad and what makes NT typology good.<br /><br />Obviously, they were inspired by the Holy Spirit. I guess the other thing would be that the book itself is a Messianic book. But it's not like that all they had was typology. They had regular prophecies.<br /><br />I think typology was used more to explain and show than to prove.geoffrobinsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14949411893531888555noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-69812963479121418122019-08-20T14:01:28.955-04:002019-08-20T14:01:28.955-04:00Steve - great points. I've been listening to P...Steve - great points. I've been listening to Pitre's talk on Luke 12 ostensibly proving purgatory. The exegesis doesn't support his view but he doesn't seem to care.<br /><br />Do you when the idea of purgatory was taught in church history?<br /><br /><br />Coreysanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10088111514772374098noreply@blogger.com