tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post6223112737877110289..comments2024-03-27T17:15:37.606-04:00Comments on Triablogue: We are watching “development of doctrine” in the makingRyanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17809283662428917799noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-39900876593159004812017-06-06T22:22:17.854-04:002017-06-06T22:22:17.854-04:00Hi Kirk -- I put up a blog post early on: http://t...Hi Kirk -- I put up a blog post early on: <a href="http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2013/10/pope-francis-is-cleaning-house.html" rel="nofollow">http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2013/10/pope-francis-is-cleaning-house.html</a>. It is impossible to know what Bergoglio's motivation is, but some of the largest numbers of Roman Catholics leave because they get divorced. I suspect he thinks he is going to slow down that number. But as you say that the liberal protestants are losing both their witness and their numbers, I think this will have the same effect: people will see through this -- they'll see it for what it really is -- and the RCC will continue to lose numbers. John Bugayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17728044301053738095noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-25770098426833903212017-06-06T21:58:31.628-04:002017-06-06T21:58:31.628-04:00John, sexual mores and attitudes on divorce were r...John, sexual mores and attitudes on divorce were rather liberal during the first centuries of Christendom, & istm Rome is jettisoning its high views of marriage & family in AL's tacit assent to the post-Christian societal status quo. Scriptural norms provided a strong witness to pagans, and so-called liberal Protestants' abandoning such have lost both their witness and their numbers. Rome's liberalization has done the same to it. Is there any evidence that liberlaization will result in stanching the hemorrhaging of members? Rome has always been rational albeit wrong; Jorge seems an hamburger shy of an Happy Meal. Your take?Kirk Skeptichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06142889734004402296noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-21384474506444386662017-06-06T21:45:05.742-04:002017-06-06T21:45:05.742-04:00Semantics doesn't equate with trivial or jesui...Semantics doesn't equate with trivial or jesuitical, for he who controls definitions controls the debateKirk Skeptichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06142889734004402296noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-21376151698744226782017-06-06T19:02:25.455-04:002017-06-06T19:02:25.455-04:00I apologize for the distracting cmt; the notion (S...I apologize for the distracting cmt; the notion (SJ) does arise frequently, however, and w\i your post - "the Catholic church's teaching on social justice." <br /><br />I do appreciate both replies which are helpful to me. "Should equality of economic outcome be the main goal?" At a minimum, that is the tacit expectation from a large contingent of our citizenry. And furthermore, aren't we now engaged in the matter of semantics with respect to "justice"? In our time there is a wide departure from scriptural usage for that term, IMO. chethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05618599197075145791noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-7395675261009515442017-06-06T17:17:02.000-04:002017-06-06T17:17:02.000-04:00chet
"What exactly is the biblical concept(s...chet<br /><br />"What exactly is the biblical concept(s) of "Social Justice"? The Left has an idea; Dennis Prager has another idea; how are we to think about a notion that likely will not go away?"<br /><br />Which of the following views best align with the biblical worldview?<br /><br />For starters, there's a difference between equality of opportunity and equality of outcome. <br /><br />For another, "social justice" could be discussed in political, economic, socio-cultural, and other terms. For example, should equality of economic outcome be the main goal? Is it just to have every worker make the same amount of money no matter what they do, don't do, etc.?<br /><br />For still another, who fundamentally guarantees social justice (e.g. individual rights) for society? Is it the gov't? Do humans have innate rights?<br /><br />And so on.rockingwithhawkinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10550503108269371174noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-14491480303093424362017-06-06T17:06:11.633-04:002017-06-06T17:06:11.633-04:00Chet -- I'm not sure what your question here h...Chet -- I'm not sure what your question here has to do with the topic of the post. Of course, there is that small matter of "feed the hungry, clothe the naked", etc. Prior to that, the Old Testament laws were full of compassion for strangers and aliens, made allowances for jubilees, etc. John Bugayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17728044301053738095noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-48267237752815545222017-06-06T16:27:11.466-04:002017-06-06T16:27:11.466-04:00What exactly is the biblical concept(s) of "...What exactly is the biblical concept(s) of "Social Justice"? The Left has an idea; Dennis Prager has another idea; how are we to think about a notion that likely will not go away? chethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05618599197075145791noreply@blogger.com