tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post6131725827660415148..comments2024-03-27T17:15:37.606-04:00Comments on Triablogue: Did Dobson betray the prolife cause?Ryanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17809283662428917799noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-40559551244419327582007-05-21T09:56:00.000-04:002007-05-21T09:56:00.000-04:00Mike,...and you're right, you aren't "arguing for ...Mike,<BR/><BR/>...and you're right, you aren't "arguing for anything". You're just making statements against presupposing the existence of God. And you've got the cart before the horse. Rationality exists because God does. What you have to explain then is how you could live in a rational world when no God exists. Though attempts have been made to do this, they end up to be self-refuting. That is inescapable. The real problem is the self-deception of the sinner when he is faced with such truth....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-64159236166206481062007-05-21T09:46:00.000-04:002007-05-21T09:46:00.000-04:00Mike,If you don't think "coherentism" is real, the...Mike,<BR/><BR/>If you don't think "coherentism" is real, then why do you live as though it is? Live out the implications of irrationality and then come back and talk to us....but then why would you want to have rational conversation anyway?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-39235654636612945152007-05-20T15:44:00.000-04:002007-05-20T15:44:00.000-04:00I am not arguing for anything. I am just saying th...I am not arguing for anything. I am just saying that presuppers are proving God only by assuming coherentism. You say that God exists because we have to include him in our worldview to have a coherent worldview.<BR/><BR/>I am just pointing out the fact that that doesn't make God real, unless you say that what is real is what is rational. If you say that then you should present us with additional arguments for coherentism.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-5576041546578128802007-05-20T15:24:00.000-04:002007-05-20T15:24:00.000-04:00Mike,Are you arguing for the correspondence theory...Mike,<BR/><BR/>Are you arguing for the correspondence theory of truth? Where is the argument?<BR/><BR/>Where is your non-arbitrary epistemic warrant for your own position? Can you provide one?GeneMBridgeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10504383610477532374noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-60281212422776442152007-05-20T15:13:00.000-04:002007-05-20T15:13:00.000-04:00Presuppoers say that we all need to presupose God ...Presuppoers say that we all need to presupose God to have a coherent worldview. I just point out that they just assume that a coherent worldview somehow necessarily corresponds to reality.<BR/><BR/>Just granting what presuppers claim, that we all have to presuppose God to have a consistent or coherent worldview, doesnt make God real. What makes God real is that if he really exists, not that we have to include him to have a consistent worldview.<BR/><BR/>My point is, in short, that TAG assumes coherentism. But what makes coherentism true?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-82857401227945642792007-05-20T14:27:00.000-04:002007-05-20T14:27:00.000-04:00Mike: Because if that's the case, then that's abo...Mike: <BR/><BR/>Because if that's the case, then that's about as good of a philosophical argument that's ever been given for anything, ever. If that doesn't prove God's existence, then nothing is provable.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-30722340398993487012007-05-20T13:48:00.000-04:002007-05-20T13:48:00.000-04:00Sorry my question is not directly related to this ...Sorry my question is not directly related to this post.<BR/><BR/>But I just dont understand how you presuppositionalist people think that just because we all have to presuppose god to have a coherent worldview somehow makes God real.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-85142400270084385142007-05-19T23:16:00.000-04:002007-05-19T23:16:00.000-04:00I don't always agree with Richard Land (SEE HERE),...I don't always agree with Richard Land <A HREF="http://www.kevinstilley.com/2007/05/mitt-romneys-candidacy-and-richard.html" REL="nofollow">(SEE HERE)</A>, but I think he was right when he said that Giuliani is such much more elequent when defending abortion than are any of the Democratic candidates and is therefore more dangerous to the pro-life movement than is Hillary.Kevin Stilleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16613332673067693686noreply@blogger.com