tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post5598604094538580581..comments2024-03-27T17:15:37.606-04:00Comments on Triablogue: Post-Confederate Derangement SyndromeRyanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17809283662428917799noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-66204656106615466352008-10-13T22:30:00.000-04:002008-10-13T22:30:00.000-04:00BJ,I was simply talking smack at the level you wer...BJ,<BR/><BR/>I was simply talking smack at the level you were. No hard feelins. I even told Steve that you were fun to drink beer with a my UFC fight party!<BR/><BR/>I didn't mean you undermind my conitive abilites, but Steve's. Frame comment, case in point.<BR/><BR/>Re: the artcle. I assume the guy is OE but not OE*C*. I', not sure he's Christian. The point, though, was to show the reasosn why the general rule doesn't apply to the Eskimos in Alaska. There are *other factors* which account for it that are not present in the cses of light skinned peoples.<BR/><BR/>Later,<BR/><BR/>PaulErrorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10615233201833238198noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-54745477277861751262008-10-13T20:26:00.000-04:002008-10-13T20:26:00.000-04:00Paul-The thing about blogs is it's hard to convey ...Paul-<BR/><BR/>The thing about blogs is it's hard to convey voice and tone.<BR/><BR/><I>For someone boasting in his reasoning skills while mocking Steve's, I'm surprised that such an erudite thinker such as yourself would think that you can disprove generalities by exceptions.</I><BR/><BR/>I wasn't trying to. I simply asked you a couple of questions about a matter I have never really investigated, and I thought since you seemed so sure of yourself, you wouldnt mind entertaining a couple of questions. <BR/><BR/><I>Uh, I dunno, but my point was rather about sunlight, not heat. The two do not coincide as such an Alaskan expert as yourself knows, they have periods of 24/7 sunlight. For example Barrow has 24/7 sunlight for almost 3 months:</I><BR/><BR/>Your right....Barrow does have 24/7 "sunlight" for almost 3 months. They also have an average temperature of 46 degrees in their "hottest" month of the year. I am assuming they are still fully dressed.<BR/><BR/><I>There's also explanations for this "phenomena" as detailed by one of the foremost experts on human skin color, cf. Jablonski:</I><BR/><BR/>I breifly skimed this article. This author seems to be arguing from an old earth perspective. Is that right?<BR/><BR/>I'm assuming you hold that these changes took place over/about the last 6,000-10,000 years. Is that correct?<BR/><BR/><I>If you want to sound halfway intelligent, please don't use the description "slanted eyes" anymore, since this will only make you seem like somewhat of a bigot (racist)."</I><BR/><BR/>Now I can't have that. Thanks for the tip.<BR/><BR/>Note to self: it's called the "epicanthic fold" not s*****d eyes. This will lead to sounding intelligent;)<BR/><BR/><BR/><I>Got any more brain busters for me, Wonder bread?</I><BR/><BR/><BR/>nope<BR/><BR/><BR/>*****************<BR/><BR/>Steve,<BR/><BR/>Let me apologize for my actions as of late. Obviously, I am not as well read in as many topics as you. I am not a racist, despite your opinion of me. My saviour was/is a dark-skinned peasant carpenter born of a virgin. He is not white, and my interest in Southern culture and race is merely trival to me. I have tried to stress that point, though, I have been unsucessful. I fell that this whole discussion has done more harm than good, and is extremely unedifying. Please accept my apology for any wrong doing, or harmful comments made.<BR/><BR/>Also, perhaps you could send me a reading list that you think would help better my understanding of matters discussed as of late.<BR/><BR/>Thanks,<BR/> B.J.<BR/><BR/>hoytmathews@gmail.comAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-80420132826399855102008-10-13T10:10:00.000-04:002008-10-13T10:10:00.000-04:00BJ77 SAID:“I've reading about that theory.”This is...BJ77 SAID:<BR/><BR/>“I've reading about that theory.”<BR/><BR/>This isn’t just “our” theory. Ironically, BJ is too ignorant to know his own side of the argument. <BR/><BR/>One of the stock arguments that white slave-owners used justify the enslavement of black Africans was the claim that black Africans were better adapted than Caucasians to the tropical climate of sugar plantations in the West Indies as well the semitropical climate of rice and (Sea Island) cotton plantations in the Deep South.<BR/><BR/>“It seems to make a sense until you consider Eskimos. They are dark skinned, not so ‘hairy-chested’, with dark hair, and little sunlight.”<BR/><BR/>i) Skin pigmentation is not the only form of climatic adaptation. Body shape is another adaptation.<BR/><BR/>ii) Certain factors can also impede adaptation, such as inbreeding, which tends to conserve in-group traits.<BR/><BR/>iii) Alaska gets little sunlight? Ever heard of snow blindness? <BR/><BR/>“They have been in the upper regions of Alaska and other parts of the world for as long as dark native Africans have occupied thier part of the world.”<BR/><BR/>How do you know that?<BR/><BR/>“For instance, the middle east and Death Valley are warmer regions than Africa, yet Africans are the darkest skin tone on earth?”<BR/><BR/>i) How many people live in Death Valley?<BR/><BR/>ii) You fail to distinguish between dry heat and humidity.<BR/><BR/>iii) Human beings also have artificial methods of adapting to climate—which lessens the stimulus for natural adaptation, depending on natural resources and technological advancement of a given culture.stevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16547070544928321788noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-38745591027450822762008-10-12T22:08:00.000-04:002008-10-12T22:08:00.000-04:00BJ,For someone boasting in his reasoning skills wh...BJ,<BR/><BR/>For someone boasting in his reasoning skills while mocking Steve's, I'm surprised that such an erudite thinker such as yourself would think that you can disprove generalities by exceptions.<BR/><BR/>There's also explanations for this "phenomena" as detailed by one of the foremost experts on human skin color, cf. Jablonski:<BR/><BR/>http://www.appalachianbioanth.org/jablonski.pdf<BR/><BR/>p. 28.<BR/><BR/><I>"Have you ever come across this objection in your defending the microevolution theory of race?"</I><BR/><BR/>About as often as I run across this:<BR/><BR/>(1) Children should be seen and not heard.<BR/>(2) Little Wolfgang Amadeus is a child.<BR/>Therefore:<BR/>(3) Little Wolfgang Amadeus shouldn’t be heard.<BR/><BR/><I>"Also, why don't the darkest skin colors on earth come from the hottest regions on earth?"</I><BR/><BR/>Uh, I dunno, but my point was rather about <I>sunlight</I>, not heat. The two do not coincide as such an Alaskan expert as yourself knows, they have periods of 24/7 sunlight. For example Barrow has 24/7 sunlight for almost 3 months:<BR/><BR/>http://www.alaska.com/about/weather/story/4481284p-4773632c.html<BR/><BR/>By your reasoning, Barrow should be hotter than Death Valley!<BR/><BR/><I>"What adaptation was needed that explains Asian's slanted eyes?"</I><BR/><BR/>Uh, I dunno, maybe God taped them back? Golly willakers, God just "made 'em tha way." The first people were obviously white (as was Jesus, blue eyes too), and one day, one of them pure milky white women popped out a dar skinned baby!<BR/><BR/>Anyway, it's called "epicanthic fold."<BR/><BR/>"The epicanthal fold (what we have) is something that all babies are born with, but those who may not be of Eastern Asian origin will eventually lose. The purpose of this "fold" is to protect the eyes from extreme sunlight and cold weather. Most people of the this part of Asia originated in Mongolia where the weather conditions were very cold and harsh. Also, with most of this population, you'll notice that there exists some extra padding below the eyes as well. With all that white snow and the sunlight reflecting off of it, don't you think with time our bodies would develop some sort of defense for one of our most valued senses--our sight? It makes sense, doesn't it?<BR/><BR/>Also, notice, that the farther south you travel in Eastern Asia the "rounder" the eye gets (their is less evidence of the epicanthal fold), since the climate gets warmer the farther south you go. Evolution, baby. <BR/><BR/>So, Eastern Asian eyes are NOT really slanted. They just appear to be. Instead they just have that extra fold above the eyes that make them appear "thinner", if you will. <BR/><BR/>If you want to sound halfway intelligent, please don't use the description "slanted eyes" anymore, since this will only make you seem like somewhat of a bigot (racist)."<BR/><BR/>http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20070624045547AAjuRti<BR/><BR/><I>"Just curious...."</I><BR/><BR/>Got any more brain busters for me, Wonder bread?Errorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10615233201833238198noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-73327922235962801902008-10-12T20:46:00.000-04:002008-10-12T20:46:00.000-04:00Paul-I've reading about that theory. It seems to m...Paul-<BR/><BR/><BR/>I've reading about that theory. It seems to make a sense until you consider Eskimos. They are dark skinned, not so "hairy-chested", with dark hair, and little sunlight. They have been in the upper regions of Alaska and other parts of the world for as long as dark native Africans have occupied thier part of the world.<BR/><BR/>Have you ever come across this objection in your defending the microevolution theory of race?<BR/><BR/>Also, why don't the darkest skin colors on earth come from the hottest regions on earth? For instance, the middle east and Death Valley are warmer regions than Africa, yet Africans are the darkest skin tone on earth?<BR/><BR/>Doesn't this theory also imply that, say, African-Americans will be less dark in future generations if they live in Canada?<BR/><BR/>What adaptation was needed that explains Asian's slanted eyes?<BR/><BR/>Just curious....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-23360149508707794912008-10-12T12:58:00.000-04:002008-10-12T12:58:00.000-04:00***“Now Steve hates it that God ordained his skin ...***<BR/><BR/>“Now Steve hates it that God ordained his skin color and legacy.”<BR/><BR/>God also ordained my fingerprints. Should I “bask” in my fingerprints? <BR/><BR/>And while we’re on the subject of providential events that God ordained, God ordained the War of Northern Aggression. Does B.J. “bask” in the War of Northern Aggression? <BR/><BR/>God also ordained Sherman’s March. Does B.J. “bask” in Sherman’s March?<BR/><BR/>God also ordained the Reconstruction Acts. Does B.J. “bask” in the Reconstruction Acts?<BR/><BR/>God also ordained a certain amount of miscegenation. Does B.J. “bask” in miscegenation?<BR/><BR/>If Obama is elected president, then God ordained that outcome as well. Will B.J. “bask” in the election of Obama? <BR/><BR/>***<BR/><BR/>Heh, heh. Ouch!<BR/><BR/>Skin color is due to microevolution. <BR/><BR/>Same with body hair.<BR/><BR/>Whites became white and hairy because they lived in areas with less sunlight and cold weather.<BR/><BR/>I think I'm gonna start a "hairy chest" klan.<BR/><BR/>Bask in my hairy chestedness.<BR/><BR/>How do you know if you have a hairy chest? Besides looking, if you fill in that bubble in the tattoo parlor, then you're hairy.Errorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10615233201833238198noreply@blogger.com