tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post5351885491155995459..comments2024-03-27T17:15:37.606-04:00Comments on Triablogue: Brains-optional infidelityRyanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17809283662428917799noreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-19947866483741896542010-10-13T19:07:44.457-04:002010-10-13T19:07:44.457-04:00Steve, I also left comments in your 5/29/10 post e...Steve, I also left comments in your 5/29/10 post entitled “Flat earth or flat head?” In which you claimed I employed "selective and deceptive citations of Horowitz and Keel." <br /><br />Chiding me for not mentioning exactly how many levels of heaven the Mesopotamians believed in (which varied) makes little sense. Even John Walton writes of the "three-tier" schema of the ancients. It's a generalization, covering heaven, earth and way may lay beneath the earth. All of those multiple heavens were regions where the gods lived. So the gods lived in heaven above, the highest tier. <br /><br />Secondly, your attempts to cite the "political" rise and fall of particular gods to try and explain away "Mesopotamian cosmic geography" makes as little sense as citing modern day politics to explain away modern day cosmologies.<br /><br />Third, If Noel Weeks really said that "a three-tiered cosmology isn’t even really identifiable within ancient near eastern creation myths" then he can argue that point with the Egyptian and Mesopotamian experts I mentioned, including John Walton. <br /><br />Do you honestly believe that one Young Earth creationist ancient historian, Noel Weeks, who writes for "Answers in Genesis" is on par with the scholars I mentioned in my blog reply (and in my chapter) whose specialties are ANE cosmologies?<br /><br />The three-tier view was held for thousands of years in both Egypt and Mesopotamia. It's visible in ancient Egyptian and Mesopotamian writings and the Bible, and visible in creation myths, creation-related passages, and implied in other passages that do not directly discuss cosmology. <br /><br />I grant that perhaps the author of the original blog post to which I was replying may have misunderstood Weeks as having said "a three-tiered cosmology isn’t even really identifiable within ancient near eastern creation myths." But assuming that is a correct summation of Weeks' view I'd like to know what Week means by "isn't really identifiable." It's clearly identifiable to ANE experts including Walton, Horowitz, Keel, etc. <br /><br />Oddly enough, your post on 1st Enoch and its association with the "Essene calendar" fits perfectly with something in my chapter on the way Enuma Elish fits with the sacred calendar of the Babylonians, and, how Genesis 1 fits with the sacred day of the week and sacred festivals of the ancient Hebrews.Edwardtbabinskihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13036816926421936940noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-51820120400884100372010-10-12T03:13:14.711-04:002010-10-12T03:13:14.711-04:00Hi Steve, I left you several comments in your prev...Hi Steve, I left you several comments in your previous post, "Newton's Bucket," which address some points you raise in this post. Please view my comments there. Thanks.Edwardtbabinskihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13036816926421936940noreply@blogger.com