tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post4744240254170346141..comments2024-03-27T17:15:37.606-04:00Comments on Triablogue: The "freethinking" argumentRyanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17809283662428917799noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-29402340297634250622018-01-31T04:41:22.155-05:002018-01-31T04:41:22.155-05:00Do you have any posts you can direct me too, to re...Do you have any posts you can direct me too, to read further. Peterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05993599903032999202noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-31542085177328546082018-01-30T09:27:37.654-05:002018-01-30T09:27:37.654-05:00My objective was simply to point out that determin...My objective was simply to point out that determinism and rational choice are mutually consistent. <br /><br />Libertarian freedom is notoriously prone to the luck objection. stevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16547070544928321788noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-57158302990908723422018-01-30T04:38:00.745-05:002018-01-30T04:38:00.745-05:00I see, so you are mainly focussing on the subject ...I see, so you are mainly focussing on the subject who is choosing, in this post. <br /><br />Would you go the other route and go to the objects as well? If God is not determining the objects as ordered and rational, would you make the case for fundamentally random and chaotic objects undermining rationality as well?<br /><br /> Also the idea of Libertarian freedom inserting irrationality into the cosmos and objects? I thought I remember seeing a post you did on this topic somewhere. Peterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05993599903032999202noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-66848192344367679422018-01-29T08:56:41.583-05:002018-01-29T08:56:41.583-05:00i) If we're defining a choice as rational (a l...i) If we're defining a choice as rational (a la Stratton, then rational factors ought to be decisive. Nonrational considerations would dilute the rationality of the choice.<br /><br />Of course, there are subconscious factors in decision-making. <br /><br />ii) In Calvinism, God (pre-)determines all our choices, whether rational or irrational. My point is simply to take issue with Stratton's false dichotomy, as if a determinate choice must be irrespective of reason and evidence. stevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16547070544928321788noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-42759693019996360112018-01-29T07:07:45.522-05:002018-01-29T07:07:45.522-05:00Steve on the determinist view, are you mainly talk...Steve on the determinist view, are you mainly talking about God determining us through reason and evidence as the decisive means for all our rational choices?<br /><br />Also, what do you make of our irrational choices then?Peterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05993599903032999202noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-56127511743829591852018-01-29T02:17:24.714-05:002018-01-29T02:17:24.714-05:00You should have a look at Al Mele's review of ...You should have a look at Al Mele's review of Searle's book. It is in Mind (2002) http://www.jstor.org/stable/3093775. Mele gives a devastating review on this point.<br /><br />It is important to note that Stratton only quotes the part of Searle that he is favorable to. He does not bring up the point you raise in ii, which is actually a reason that Searle himself thinks his view is unattractive with respect to freedom. Mele covers this. James A. Gibsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14816918735557659061noreply@blogger.com