tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post4532883653397333945..comments2024-03-27T17:15:37.606-04:00Comments on Triablogue: The McGrew/Pearce Debate On Christmas IssuesRyanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17809283662428917799noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-27857010094927243632020-12-20T20:44:13.551-05:002020-12-20T20:44:13.551-05:00I'll see those after I finish. Taking notes an...I'll see those after I finish. Taking notes and everything. All I can say so far is how sloppy. He puts words into Lydia's mouth at 13:40 claiming if she were consistent, she must also believe in the Quran and Hadith. The Quran was "cleaned up" by one central source a couple of centuries after Mohammed apparently lived. How is that at all like the Gospels. The same standard can be used to reject the Quran and not the Gospels.<br /><br />This is the trouble with watching debates. I don't get emotional watching sports, but during debates, I internally turn into the guy saying "Pass the ball, pass the ball! Go for a touchdown! Are you blind, ref!?".TheFlyingCouchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03529770322240929051noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-24481461869637682782020-12-20T17:38:21.115-05:002020-12-20T17:38:21.115-05:00I've posted some comments on the debate elsewh...I've posted some comments on the debate elsewhere, including some exchanges with Jonathan Pearce:<br /><br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PloRcUHBMU&lc=Ugwcu_M0TKWBqnbOvWV4AaABAg" rel="nofollow">YouTube</a><br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PloRcUHBMU&lc=UgxFNs4IQko4WUy7d-p4AaABAg" rel="nofollow">YouTube</a><br /><a href="https://www.premierchristianradio.com/Shows/Weekday/Christmas-2020/Episodes/Unbelievable-The-Christmas-story-fact-or-fairytale-Lydia-McGrew-vs-Jonathan-Pearce#comment-5194735961" rel="nofollow">Unbelievable?</a><br /><a href="https://www.premierchristianradio.com/Shows/Weekday/Christmas-2020/Episodes/Unbelievable-The-Christmas-story-fact-or-fairytale-Lydia-McGrew-vs-Jonathan-Pearce#comment-5194733360" rel="nofollow">Unbelievable?</a><br /><a href="https://www.premierchristianradio.com/Shows/Weekday/Christmas-2020/Episodes/Unbelievable-The-Christmas-story-fact-or-fairytale-Lydia-McGrew-vs-Jonathan-Pearce#comment-5196293712" rel="nofollow">Unbelievable?</a>Jason Engwerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17031011335190895123noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-2546014160919654712020-12-20T16:13:39.914-05:002020-12-20T16:13:39.914-05:00I didn't go down too far, but there's noth...I didn't go down too far, but there's nothing one could respond to that doesn't require "what exactly are you arguing here?".TheFlyingCouchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03529770322240929051noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-80917996014718307752020-12-20T16:13:04.631-05:002020-12-20T16:13:04.631-05:00Oh wow, what a dumpster fire in the comments secti...Oh wow, what a dumpster fire in the comments section. We've got it all. Assertions in search of an argument, outright name-calling, and my favorite, saying an atheist who's ignorant about how history works should be summoned to take on Lydia McGrew.TheFlyingCouchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03529770322240929051noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-17912106702425442582020-12-20T12:42:12.289-05:002020-12-20T12:42:12.289-05:00Paul the Apostle says that even if an angel came d...Paul the Apostle says that even if an angel came down from heaven and proclaimed any other Gospel than the one Paul taught "let him be accursed".<br /><br />So I'll go with what the Bible proclaims over what Jonathan Pearce (or anyone and everyone else) proclaims if their messages are at odds.<br /><br />It's one thing to say "we're unclear on this or that claim", but it's altogether something different to say "the Bible is wrong on this or that claim".<br /><br />One is humility and the other is hubris.Coram Deohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05994831207453460486noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-59825424155845897152020-12-18T23:52:22.819-05:002020-12-18T23:52:22.819-05:00Sounds like he'd respond to one of your commen...Sounds like he'd respond to one of your comments in the last blog post by saying Timothy McGrew is a scribal interpolation.<br /><br />No, I did not spend too much time working on that.<br /><br />Looks like I'll have a good time tomorrow morning, then.TheFlyingCouchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03529770322240929051noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-61378715119957456512020-12-18T20:42:12.102-05:002020-12-18T20:42:12.102-05:00For a guy who keeps emphasizing that possibility i...For a guy who keeps emphasizing that possibility is not probability, Pearce is really big on long-shot conjectures with little or zero evidence for them, and even evidence against, such as that claim about Psalm 87:6 and the claim that Luke 1-2 are a later interpolation.Lydia McGrewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00423567323116960820noreply@blogger.com