tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post4366324850462656637..comments2024-03-14T14:41:17.663-04:00Comments on Triablogue: The argumentum ad andonandonandonRyanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17809283662428917799noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-8437526466527349812007-02-24T16:30:00.000-05:002007-02-24T16:30:00.000-05:00David Heddle was right to be incredulous. He's sm...David Heddle was <A HREF="http://telicthoughts.com/professor-of-geology-cars-disprove-intelligent-design/#comment-67273" REL="nofollow">right to be incredulous</A>. He's smarter than you, or maybe he's not as desperate to believe that the earth is a few thousand years old.<BR/><BR/>When you listen to the entire program, the comment about Hiroshima and our cars and etc., all make perfect sense. The words ripped out of context make no sense. It's typical creationist quote mining. Something they're <A HREF="http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/quotes/mine/project.html" REL="nofollow">very practiced at</A>.<BR/><BR/>Notice that no link was provided to the original source? Well I went digging, and I found <A HREF="http://www.evolutionvscreationism.info/Evolution%20vs.%20Creationism/16..html" REL="nofollow">this</A>, which is Powell's long explanation of radioactive decay, and how it relates to Hiroshima, and how it relates to atoms, lights and uniformity in general. (See 1:13:00-1:14:00) The summary video at the end of the series has him repeating what he had earlier said, although much less articulately and (honestly) stretching it a little for the sake of hyperbole. The quote is from <A HREF="http://www.evolutionvscreationism.info/Evolution%20vs.%20Creationism/24..html" REL="nofollow">this video</A>, (1:35:00). It makes little sense if you don't listen to his earlier explanation of how physics ties together radioactive decay to atomic behavior to lights (and thus electricity) --> cars.<BR/><BR/>It doesn't surprise me in the slightest that this turns out to be a purposeful relief of context, wherein he explains what he means by the Hiroshima reference and uniformity (he should've said, 'you can't expect your car to work'). Paul Nelson supposedly provided this quote to Krauze. Krauze didn't bother to tell us where to find it. I'm not surprised, because the man's <A HREF="" REL="nofollow">overarching point</A> (See 1:13:00-1:14:00) is a solid one, and this one quote is a fumbling attempt to "talk back" at creationists on their level of rhetoric.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-18493697061042167542007-02-23T13:04:00.000-05:002007-02-23T13:04:00.000-05:00I guess them cars were not designed after all. Jus...I guess them cars were not designed after all. Just a deterministic random arrangement of molecules after billions of years.Augusthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12811077365729979841noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-31766947839248880142007-02-23T10:16:00.000-05:002007-02-23T10:16:00.000-05:00Given that ID isn't comprehensive, it has signific...Given that ID isn't comprehensive, it has significant observations to bring to the table. In this light, my eight-year old can debate as well as James L. Powell:<BR/><BR/>"Fine! I'll just take my marbles and go home!"<BR/><BR/>"Oh, yeah! Well my daddy said..."Jim Pembertonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01446388434272680014noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-35001381215244291332007-02-23T10:03:00.000-05:002007-02-23T10:03:00.000-05:00Gah! I didn't meant to delete!...I'm going home.....Gah! I didn't meant to delete!<BR/><BR/>...I'm going home...SuzEQCitizenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10551808965427634539noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-70263237619363013342007-02-23T09:58:00.000-05:002007-02-23T09:58:00.000-05:00Silly me, there IS no warp speed...Silly me, there IS no warp speed...SuzEQCitizenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10551808965427634539noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-4800886310046954272007-02-23T00:07:00.000-05:002007-02-23T00:07:00.000-05:00Wow. I mean, why debate the issues any longer? I...Wow. I mean, why debate the issues any longer? I'm devastated. Guess I'll just go sign up for the Richard Dawkins newsletter now....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com