tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post4297316016423419301..comments2024-03-27T17:15:37.606-04:00Comments on Triablogue: Principled conservatismRyanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17809283662428917799noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-89055673454928802812008-09-24T22:41:00.000-04:002008-09-24T22:41:00.000-04:00Ah, thanks Peter, I was looking for some specific ...Ah, thanks Peter, I was looking for some specific reference to laissez-faire capitalism or capitalism in general.Seanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08697051930790491821noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-15905565648623299182008-09-24T21:49:00.000-04:002008-09-24T21:49:00.000-04:00Sean,Start here:---vii) Finally, if we look at OT ...Sean,<BR/><BR/>Start here:<BR/>---<BR/>vii) Finally, if we look at OT penology, various case laws are applicable to business ethics and corporate law, viz. theft, debt, bribery, usury, wrongful death or injury, oath-breaking, moving/removing landmarks. <BR/><BR/>Those are situations where gov’t regulation is warranted.<BR/>---Peter Pikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11792036365040378473noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-66954590536111879782008-09-24T20:51:00.000-04:002008-09-24T20:51:00.000-04:00When you said,"I reject laissez-faire capitalism (...When you said,<BR/>"I reject laissez-faire capitalism (see above)."<BR/><BR/>what am I supposed to be seeing above? As I don't recall any mention of your views on capitalism.Seanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08697051930790491821noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-30441459137359756132008-09-24T15:26:00.000-04:002008-09-24T15:26:00.000-04:00You wrote: OT statecraft lays a foundation for lim...You wrote: OT statecraft lays a foundation for limited gov’t, while secular statecraft lays a foundation for totalitarian gov’t.<BR/><BR/>iv) In Biblical anthropology, man is fallen. Man is a sinner. This is another presupposition of limited gov’t. Rulers are not morally superior to the governed. As such, their own power needs to be curbed.<BR/><BR/><BR/>___<BR/><BR/>And,of course, we can infer from this that liberal government is anthropocentric, and, while not necessarily "godless" (eg. atheistic), it tends to try to make up for what the church(es) should be doing it/themself/ves by substituting government bureaucracy. <BR/><BR/>And who, more often than not, tries to run to Big Government, in theological circles - the liberal Christian, the Christians whose view man is higher than that of the Bible and a low view of God's grace than the Bible allows (I would say Reppert seems to fall into this category) and the fundamentalists who practice several degrees of "separation." In the last case, what I see happening with them is that they tend to withdraw for years or decades at a time, a generation of them peeks out from the security of the rocks, finds the world full of giants, and then they proceed to use the State to advance an agenda that they have themselves failed to enact by persuasion from their churches - that's one reason I have such a problem with the SBC's implicity and often explicit support of the Republican Party. Either of these 3 groups can fall into the trap of promoting "Big Government" - but for different reasons. I suspect that this may be one reason the NT simply tells us to obey the secular authorities insofar as the laws do not command us to trangress the Law and why the Church (big C) tends, historically, to do well when it is isn't in control of the secular government.GeneMBridgeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10504383610477532374noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-83812916365760059702008-09-24T12:38:00.000-04:002008-09-24T12:38:00.000-04:00IMNSHO, Victor Reppert owes Steve Hays for the the...IMNSHO, Victor Reppert owes Steve Hays for the theological, political, moral, spiritual, and biblical education that he's receiving from Steve.<BR/><BR/>But an unprincipled liberal is always looking for a free handout.<BR/><BR/>;-)Truth Unites... and Divideshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08891402278361538353noreply@blogger.com