tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post3370259402662027013..comments2024-03-27T17:15:37.606-04:00Comments on Triablogue: They’re coming for us nowRyanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17809283662428917799noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-19656072606837606052012-09-18T03:18:29.710-04:002012-09-18T03:18:29.710-04:00Mike Westfall, in my opinion, you can't make a...Mike Westfall, in my opinion, you can't make a meaningful distinction between sexual orientation and the content of the job here unless the people being photographed are merely actors following a script, because the sexual orientation of the two main people involved specifically determines the "content of the job", as you put it.<br /><br />I'm an anti-Christian pro-Gay rights atheist, and I have mixed feelings about this. On the one hand, I support the idea of stressing fairness and equity for all people in the context of a public accomodation, especially in the sub-context of gay rights. On the other hand, my stronger feelings come from my Baptist background and the idea of freedom of conscience and individual liberty. I support a business' right of refusal within reason. I think Christians have been and continue to be treated unfairly at times. But I have not fully decided exactly where I stand on all of these issues.Byroniachttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14946794635613455210noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-86473905244134629162012-09-17T12:09:11.956-04:002012-09-17T12:09:11.956-04:00Thanks for sharing this story Michael. I appreciat...Thanks for sharing this story Michael. I appreciate your encouragement as well.<br />John Bugayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17728044301053738095noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-41046722825036475802012-09-17T12:07:30.877-04:002012-09-17T12:07:30.877-04:00Thanks for the clarification Mike. Thanks for the clarification Mike. John Bugayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17728044301053738095noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-62961885009217278432012-09-17T11:29:14.316-04:002012-09-17T11:29:14.316-04:00setting aside the article and the issues I would s...setting aside the article and the issues I would say something (from my personal experiences) about bullying by the LGBT crowd.<br /><br />I frequent the San Francisco bay area. I have been down in the Castro district. I have been walking along downtown streets near where Apple Computer has its main store. I have seen and felt animosity and bullying and overt expressions unwarranted and unwelcome by gay men especially when walking with my two sons.<br /><br />There is an evil lurking under the skin of this small yet loud obnoxious group of people. <br /><br />Once while driving in the Castro district behind an old lady, maybe to old to be driving, she accidentally lurch forward and almost hit a man. He exploded and started kicking her car and yelling propanities at this dear old lady. With my own windows down I could hear both the man and the little old woman. He kept yelling abuse. She kept apologizing.<br /><br />Make no mistake, just like we are seeing an uproar with Muslims around the world ( I am particularly concerned as I have one son, a crew chief on black hawk helicopter deployed right now as I type at Bagram air base in Afghanistan ) who are offending their prophet, we are seeing a similar "fruit of the flesh" with bullying gays and lesbians instantly getting hot under the collar when they feel offended or threatened.<br /><br />Make no mistake, either, God is not dead and is alive and well and His plan for the ages will come to pass:::><br /><br /><b>Eph 1:9 making known to us the mystery of his will, according to his purpose, which he set forth in Christ <br />Eph 1:10 as a plan for the fullness of time, to unite all things in him, things in heaven and things on earth. </b><br /><br />If they misunderstood Him in the days of His flesh and hated Him and His message and then killed Him, they will misunderstand us in our days of flesh and hate us and our message and kill some of us thinking they are doing God and man a service!<br /><br />John,<br /><br />don't stand down and keep reporting the TRUTH!<br /><br />God is on our side without respect of persons. Even though He is calling and electing, He still brings upon us what we sow and we reap for good or ill basis our sowing!natamllchttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05362006343221525741noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-7852770766349923992012-09-17T05:45:54.007-04:002012-09-17T05:45:54.007-04:00Crude, just keep in mind, John Bugay is just repor...Crude, just keep in mind, John Bugay is just reporting. And as for them "bullying", just remember it was an infallible council, chock-full of bishops and ratified by a pope, who invited them in. John Bugayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17728044301053738095noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-5497725250238523002012-09-17T02:37:30.877-04:002012-09-17T02:37:30.877-04:00The kangaroo court here in New Mexico got it wrong...The kangaroo court here in New Mexico got it wrong. Wrong, wrong, wrong.<br /><br />It wasn't that Elane declined the job because of Willock's sexual orientation. It was because of the content of the proposed job. I'm sure if Willock had wanted Elane to photograph her fluffy kitty, there would be no problem. On the other hand, if one of Willock's straight friends had been the paying customer -- instead of Willock herself -- asking Elane to photograph Willock's "commitment ceremony," the job would have been turned down, because of the content of the job. In that case, it would be absurd to claim that the job was refused because of the customer's sexual orientation.Mike Westfallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06944727980772754938noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-23684652806692943822012-09-16T22:31:19.631-04:002012-09-16T22:31:19.631-04:00'Cheering on the LGBT thugs.'
Thanks Crud...'Cheering on the LGBT thugs.'<br /><br />Thanks Crude! I support you supporting us homosexuals and parts of the LGBT movement (though you are probably supporting us a bit tongue in cheek and in an unintended way at least it's still some form of support)! -- A proud gay liberal :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-52803471857620121922012-09-16T20:22:20.736-04:002012-09-16T20:22:20.736-04:00Of course, the moment the Catholic Church takes a ...Of course, the moment the Catholic Church takes a stand against LGBT thugs bullying orthodox Catholics, inside or outside the Church, John Bugay will be there.<br /><br />Cheering on the LGBT thugs.Crudehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04178390947423928444noreply@blogger.com