tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post3246971269553225937..comments2024-03-27T17:15:37.606-04:00Comments on Triablogue: Ghost HuntersRyanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17809283662428917799noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-61990531553347816992013-08-13T22:07:40.020-04:002013-08-13T22:07:40.020-04:00Thanks, Mark. That could be true. I wouldn't k...Thanks, Mark. That could be true. I wouldn't know without hearing from them directly.<br /><br />That said, it's possible for someone to <i>believe</i> it's inadequate to dismiss an argument due to tone, but (unknowingly or knowingly) <i>behave</i> differently when they have to deal with it themselves.<br /><br />But in any case, I think the tone bit was less important than what I wrote in the first and last paragraphs. Patrick Chanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16095377877712197984noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-81095228600947634422013-08-13T21:50:45.197-04:002013-08-13T21:50:45.197-04:00Patrick, I don't think it's the tone simpl...Patrick, I don't think it's the tone simply because TeamPyro has addressed the inadequacy of dismissing someone's argument over tone in the past. I think they even have a tone police article. They often, or have in the past, been accused of having an unloving tone. Markhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01410144337505012175noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-24745039462268998722013-08-13T00:45:56.584-04:002013-08-13T00:45:56.584-04:00Dan Phillips said:
I’m just surprised you continu...Dan Phillips said:<br /><br /><b>I’m just surprised you continue to engage him so seriously. He’s “arguing” like a four-year-old. I don’t see the percentage in engaging him as if he’s not. I mean I admire you, but I just don’t see it ending well. A few proverbs come to mind.</b><br /><br />I respect Dan. But I don't think his allegation against Steve is quite fair. People may dispute Steve's reasons and arguments, but he has offered reasons and arguments on the topic.<br /><br />I suspect it's more the case that Dan (among others) doesn't appreciate Steve's tone. If so, to begin with, this isn't anything new. I'm pretty sure nearly every Tblogger has had their tone called into question. Whether our tone is justifiable depends in part on each particular instance (including this one on the current topic). But I'll leave all this aside for the moment since I think it'd detract from another point I'd like to make now: If someone doesn't like a person's tone, then why not tune out their tone, and focus on the arguments themselves?<br /><br />It seems to me Fred Butler has been engaging the arguments themselves. But I don't think Dan has attempted to engage Steve on this topic so far, has he? If not, then, with all due respect, I don't quite follow how declining to engage an argument and at the same time alleging someone is "'arguing' like a four-year-old" is altogether different to, well, "'arguing' like a four-year-old"?Patrick Chanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16095377877712197984noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-52089845572436833502013-08-13T00:31:36.733-04:002013-08-13T00:31:36.733-04:00"First thing I'd note is that Fred doesn&..."First thing I'd note is that Fred doesn't present any counterexamples."<br /><br />If Fred did provide counter examples, would you modify or retract your particular statement in this regard?<br /><br />----<br /><br />With regards to Dan Phillips, folks should read your Debunking Continuationism post. They'll see that you're not arguing like a four-year-old. Truth Unites... and Divideshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08891402278361538353noreply@blogger.com