tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post2266254326701912180..comments2024-03-27T17:15:37.606-04:00Comments on Triablogue: Andrew Lincoln's Book Against The Virgin Birth (Part 1)Ryanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17809283662428917799noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-6263695536729701832013-11-27T06:58:07.587-05:002013-11-27T06:58:07.587-05:00As a former student of Andrew Lincoln's I am i...As a former student of Andrew Lincoln's I am interested (but distressed) by this development. What I ask Dr Lincoln is how, if Joseph is the father of Jesus this buttresses the incarnation. To be sure, it guarantees Jesus' full humanity - but the incarnation is God taking on human flesh and that requires Jesus is not just fully man. What 'solidarity' with us in our humanity is left if Jesus is but a man and fully so? God has not shared 'our flesh and blood' Heb.2:14, what of His deliverance Heb.2.15? If he is 'made like his brothers' Heb.2.17 are we not all too? Where is the uniqueness of Christ in this?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02447818976104382887noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-2623075872107664692013-11-04T18:02:06.551-05:002013-11-04T18:02:06.551-05:00Blake,
Yes, he cites Machen many times and is hig...Blake,<br /><br />Yes, he cites Machen many times and is highly critical of him. I'll be saying more about that in Wednesday's post.Jason Engwerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17031011335190895123noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-67354375193767974042013-11-04T16:10:13.168-05:002013-11-04T16:10:13.168-05:00I see what you meant now. I actually realized it ...I see what you meant now. I actually realized it after I read the post for a second time, but I didn't want to cover up my mistake. I started reading some of Machen's work last night, and he seems to deal with most of these issues, at least the questions of biblical interpretation. Does Lincoln interact with Machen?<br /><br />In Christ,<br />BlakeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-36645716394375618952013-11-04T08:17:16.628-05:002013-11-04T08:17:16.628-05:00THE STAR OF AMC'S THE WALKING DEAD IS ALSO A L...THE STAR OF AMC'S <i>THE WALKING DEAD</i> IS ALSO A LIBERAL NEW TESTAMENT SCHOLAR???<br /><br />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Lincoln<br /><br />NNNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!LanternBrighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14727003028902907286noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-2758556536059793702013-11-04T05:55:46.853-05:002013-11-04T05:55:46.853-05:00Pseudo-Augustine,
The second part in the series s...Pseudo-Augustine,<br /><br />The second part in the series should answer your questions. Let me know if it doesn't.<br /><br />Reasoning through an issue like the historicity of the virgin birth involves tradeoffs. Some evidence seems to lead in one direction, and other evidence seems to lead in another direction. The same occurs in many other contexts in life, like court cases. Advocates of the historicity of the virgin birth shouldn't deny that they're at a disadvantage in some contexts. You don't have to think that you're at an advantage in every context, or deny that there are any difficulties with your position, in order to think that it's the best position to take on balance.Jason Engwerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17031011335190895123noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-12618572916232528222013-11-04T05:49:12.171-05:002013-11-04T05:49:12.171-05:00Mike wrote:
"Are you implying that this guy ...Mike wrote:<br /><br /><b><i>"Are you implying that this guy is not a Christian because he doesn't believe in the virgin birth?"</i></b> <br /><br />No.<br /><br />Adherence to a belief is related to salvation in more than one way. For example, must a person believe in the virgin birth in order to become a Christian? No. Scripture doesn't say or suggest that it's necessary, and I doubt that individuals like the thief on the cross had a belief in the virgin birth when they were justified. On the other hand, the virgin birth is correct, important, and repeatedly taught by scripture with significant clarity, so ignorance or denial of it would be sinful, to differing degrees, under some circumstances. Denial of the virgin birth would be evidence against salvation in the sort of secondary sense in which something like pride, impatience, or denying that Jesus raised Lazarus from the dead would be. Somebody might be involved in that sort of behavior, yet be a Christian, but the behavior is inconsistent with his Christian identity. Denial of the virgin birth is evidence against salvation, but inconclusive by itself.Jason Engwerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17031011335190895123noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-2884949156757886742013-11-03T21:09:59.240-05:002013-11-03T21:09:59.240-05:00"I agree with Lincoln that phrases like "..."I agree with Lincoln that phrases like "son of David" and "son of Joseph" are most naturally taken as contradictions of a virgin birth."<br /><br />It will be interesting to see how you respond to this. If you think that the text are "most" naturally taken, then does that mean that your reading will be unnatural. If so doesn't that put you at a decided disadvantage?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-41785677691176246312013-11-03T20:09:03.953-05:002013-11-03T20:09:03.953-05:00Jason, I have a question. Are you implying that th...Jason, I have a question. Are you implying that this guy is not a Christian because he doesn't believe in the virgin birth? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com