tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post1483458749051094673..comments2024-03-27T17:15:37.606-04:00Comments on Triablogue: Inspiration & ObfuscationRyanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17809283662428917799noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-3096689994112776782008-04-02T08:29:00.000-04:002008-04-02T08:29:00.000-04:00meadebaker said:"He's being terminated because of ...meadebaker said:<BR/><BR/>"He's being terminated because of disunity, not theology."<BR/><BR/>But the disunity is due to his theology, as expressed in his book. <BR/><BR/>And this may involve the technical grounds for his suspension. There are legal issues when a tenured prof. is terminated. <BR/><BR/>But that's not necessarly the underlying reason they may fire him. It goes back to his book.stevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16547070544928321788noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-48724777135957441722008-04-01T21:56:00.000-04:002008-04-01T21:56:00.000-04:00Meade and Doxxa are the same person.Meade and Doxxa are the same person.Meadehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16963417732451110474noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-45283463331444609452008-04-01T21:54:00.000-04:002008-04-01T21:54:00.000-04:00Clarification - what's happening at the seminary i...Clarification - what's happening at the seminary is amongst presbyterians. It IS a pattern among reformed folk to divide over what is in my view and many others are small nuances. John Frame has a good article about this issue but I can't remember the title. <BR/><BR/>It just seems sometimes like for some people faith is only about forming tighter and tighter doctrine rather than missional engagement. I do believe in dividing for doctrinal purity. Just not over what Enns book contains. <BR/><BR/>This also isn't why he's being terminated. He's being terminated because of disunity, not theology.Meadehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16963417732451110474noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-76717156868676410392008-04-01T21:42:00.000-04:002008-04-01T21:42:00.000-04:00Steve, you're absolutely right. I was speaking in...Steve, you're absolutely right. I was speaking in anger earlier and I shouldn't have resorted to name calling type tactics. I apologize. When commenting in the future I'll try to model how I'd like others to disagree with me.Meadehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16963417732451110474noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-82055776853212825882008-04-01T20:48:00.000-04:002008-04-01T20:48:00.000-04:00doxxa.wordpress.com said...“It's just squabbling o...doxxa.wordpress.com said...<BR/><BR/>“It's just squabbling over doctrinal nuances.”<BR/><BR/>Enns seemed to think far more was at stake than squabbling over doctrinal nuances. So do his many of his supporters.stevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16547070544928321788noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-2933590807492895742008-04-01T20:43:00.000-04:002008-04-01T20:43:00.000-04:00doxxa.wordpress.com said...“So you're saying when ...doxxa.wordpress.com said...<BR/><BR/>“So you're saying when Jesus said the path was narrow he meant if you don't sign on to reformation and post-reformation creeds you're off the path?”<BR/><BR/>I see that an adult attention span is not your forte. Art was the one who originally suggested that to be “narrow” was to be off the path. I simply pointed out that his use of “narrow” as a pejorative adjective is at odds with dominical usage.<BR/><BR/>“I hope your inflammatory comments are more about getting attention than they are your actual beliefs. Your kind of thinking is what is wrong with presbyterians. It's just squabbling over doctrinal nuances in idolatrous prideful ways.”<BR/><BR/>Aside from the fact that I’m not a Presbyterian, your characterization of my position (“idolatrous,” “prideful”) is pretty “inflammatory.” <BR/><BR/>I hope that’s more about getting attention than about your actual beliefs. Otherwise, your kind of thinking is what is wrong with theological moderates and liberals. <BR/><BR/>BTW, do you think that the faculty members like Gaffin and Poythress who were opposed to Enns (or so I’ve read) are prideful idolaters? <BR/><BR/>Nice to see you exemplify the charitable discourse which you are so eager to urge on your opponents.stevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16547070544928321788noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-34644019287197150652008-04-01T16:01:00.000-04:002008-04-01T16:01:00.000-04:00So you're saying when Jesus said the path was narr...So you're saying when Jesus said the path was narrow he meant if you don't sign on to reformation and post-reformation creeds you're off the path? I hope your inflammatory comments are more about getting attention than they are your actual beliefs. Your kind of thinking is what is wrong with presbyterians. It's just squabbling over doctrinal nuances in idolatrous prideful ways.Meadehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16963417732451110474noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-55751751714897048082008-04-01T07:44:00.000-04:002008-04-01T07:44:00.000-04:00I remember in my Church History class during semin...I remember in my Church History class during seminary when the issue of what an evangelical came up the place of inerrancy was primary. The use of Gospel as self-identification was tertiary at best, now these seem to have reverse in the mass of professors out there, but that was way back in the dark ages of the fall of 2000.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-17953071849621438362008-03-31T12:19:00.000-04:002008-03-31T12:19:00.000-04:00Knee-Jerk reactionary talk rarely accomplishes any...Knee-Jerk reactionary talk rarely accomplishes anything. This doesn't benefit anyone.Alberthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10331664046303098839noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-40303387101009124892008-03-31T01:50:00.000-04:002008-03-31T01:50:00.000-04:00Traditionally, the inerrancy of Scripture has also...<I>Traditionally, the inerrancy of Scripture has also been a core tenet of Evangelicalism.</I><BR/><BR/>AaaaaaaAAAAAAaaaaaAAAAAAA-men!<BR/><BR/>Many folks are given to navel-gazing inspection as to what, why, and how evangelicalism went wrong and how the term is just about vacuous and devoid of useful content. Well, I would submit as exhibit A that abandoning the inerrancy of Scripture, and its related doctrine, the Authority of Scripture, is the reason why evangelicalism as a technical descriptor is so meaningless these days. <BR/><BR/>You have mainline liberals who say they're evangelicals even though they despise the doctrine of inerrancy.<BR/><BR/>My solution: You don't believe in the inerrancy of Scripture, then you don't have any business identifying yourself as an evangelical (or as a Bible-believing Christian). Just call yourself a theo-lib.<BR/><BR/>That way we can recover the word "evangelical" so that it can mean what it meant before.Truth Unites... and Divideshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08891402278361538353noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-13829420736873402042008-03-30T23:03:00.000-04:002008-03-30T23:03:00.000-04:00Good post.Completely off-topic, but in case you ha...Good post.<BR/><BR/>Completely off-topic, but in case you haven't already seen it:<BR/><BR/>http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelligent-design/machine-video/Saint and Sinnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14166699860672840738noreply@blogger.com