tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post115171363076996987..comments2024-03-27T17:15:37.606-04:00Comments on Triablogue: Polly wanna cracker?Ryanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17809283662428917799noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-1151846960145369952006-07-02T09:29:00.000-04:002006-07-02T09:29:00.000-04:00PS: "origens is"Priceless.PS: "origens is"<BR/><BR/>Priceless.nsflhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04129382545589470620noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-1151846933989922762006-07-02T09:28:00.000-04:002006-07-02T09:28:00.000-04:00evanmay,Were the species all created ex nihilo? I...evanmay,<BR/><BR/>Were the species all created <I>ex nihilo</I>? If not, then could you tell me whether you agree or disagree with common descent?<BR/><BR/>Steve started a whole brand spankin' new post, and yet so far, only he has weighed in with a clear stance. Paul, Evanmay, et al, will you just answer the questions? I'm not asking for a defense, and I'm not offering an offense. I just want to know:<BR/>1) Are the physicists lying about the age of the earth?<BR/>2) Are the biologists lying about the descent with modification of species from common ancestors? [note here I'm not specifying whether "guided" or "unguided"]nsflhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04129382545589470620noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-1151846768306273662006-07-02T09:26:00.000-04:002006-07-02T09:26:00.000-04:00I shall admit that whenever a millitant atheist te...<I>I shall admit that whenever a millitant atheist tells me evolution and religion can be combined, I get a wee bit suspicious.</I><BR/><BR/>Then would you listen when the Pope tells you that? <BR/><BR/>The intellectual bankruptcy of creationism is only subscribed to by those who don't really care about reality.nsflhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04129382545589470620noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-1151760977045494032006-07-01T09:36:00.000-04:002006-07-01T09:36:00.000-04:00Oh yes, and Cote, old boy, your link hasn't taken....Oh yes, and Cote, old boy, your link hasn't taken. At least I assume so, otherwise you're saying I want to see this site, which I obviously do as I'm looking at it.<BR/><BR/>Don't worry, I can't do the links bit either.Hiraethhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08745527476050999805noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-1151751217034351762006-07-01T06:53:00.000-04:002006-07-01T06:53:00.000-04:00Daniel,I laughed much, as 'bird' in Britain can al...Daniel,<BR/>I laughed much, as 'bird' in Britain can also mean 'kept woman'. But that's by the by. Oh, and I've said before that rudeness doesn't help.<BR/><BR/>The fight here is between Popper and Lakatos. Popper believed that if a theory is bad, it should be chucked out, while Lakatos believed that theories were adapted until a better one comes away (for example, the Aristotelian/Ptolomeic system).<BR/><BR/>I shall admit that whenever a millitant atheist tells me evolution and religion can be combined, I get a wee bit suspicious. Me, I don't know much about science, but I know my history. Attempts to marry religion to evolution have always ended in acrimonius divorce, and I'm afraid Darwin usually gets the alimony and custody of the child.Hiraethhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08745527476050999805noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-1151724541172051342006-06-30T23:29:00.000-04:002006-06-30T23:29:00.000-04:00Part of what's going on here was hinted at by Paul...Part of what's going on here was hinted at by Paul. Two parts of the problem in talking with these guys are the definitions of "science" and "theory." These have shifted over the centuries from "investigation" and "testable hypothesis not yet disproved," respectively, to something more like "curiosity" and "speculation."<BR/><BR/>Which is to say, you aren't communicating because you aren't talking about the same thing. It's like the difference between what a Christian means and what a Mormon means when both affirm, "God is eternal."Jim Criglerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11437189788683651969noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-1151722963251893532006-06-30T23:02:00.000-04:002006-06-30T23:02:00.000-04:00Creation ex nihilo is exactly that: it is creation...Creation <I>ex nihilo</I> is exactly that: it is creation from nothing to something. Thus, any questions concerning any observable "evidence" that speculates a supposed discrepancy between the world in which we live and a world created <I>ex nihilo</I> is simply nonsense.<BR/><BR/>...This is the part that naturalists seem to never be able to understand.Evan Mayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07287475721156396697noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-1151716443827672162006-06-30T21:14:00.000-04:002006-06-30T21:14:00.000-04:00If you were a bird, Danny, I'd pump my son's pelle...If you were a bird, Danny, I'd pump my son's pellet gun 10 times and shoot you before you ahd a chance to drop bombs on Steve's shoulder.<BR/><BR/>**Note, that is, *if* you were a bird. Don't try and sue me for threatening your life, you sue happy liberal! :-)<BR/><BR/><BR/>Anyway, origens is a philosphical and theological question, not a scientific one. So it doesn't matter much what "the Scientists" say. I mean, does it matter what Detroit's auto workers have to say regarding how to make cup cakes?<BR/><BR/>Besides, if you're going to pit 'science' against 'religion' maybe you could provide us with a definition of science which properly gives the necessary and sufficient conditions which properly demarcate it from non-science?Errorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10615233201833238198noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-1151716144151872512006-06-30T21:09:00.000-04:002006-06-30T21:09:00.000-04:00If I were your bird, Steve-o, I'd sh*t on your sho...If I were your bird, Steve-o, I'd sh*t on your shoulder. ;)nsflhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04129382545589470620noreply@blogger.com