tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post9093550031647779987..comments2024-03-27T17:15:37.606-04:00Comments on Triablogue: Fallacious FallaciesRyanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17809283662428917799noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-59775663220414396232008-12-12T16:21:00.000-05:002008-12-12T16:21:00.000-05:00For that matter, Paul could also change it to say:...For that matter, Paul could also change it to say:<BR/><BR/>In the summer, 40 degrees is cold; in the winter, 40 degrees is warm.<BR/><BR/>Or:<BR/><BR/>For an Eskimo, 100 degrees is extremely hot. For an Arab, 0 degrees is extremly cold. (BTW, I should point out that my family being from Alaska, my parents told me how they'd attend college courses and in the morning it would be -60F. When they left in the afternoon, it would be -20F, and they'd take off their coats because it was 40 degrees warmer.)Peter Pikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11792036365040378473noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-61174438846794008452008-12-12T14:03:00.000-05:002008-12-12T14:03:00.000-05:00Vytautus,i) note that I said "being." A "being" do...Vytautus,<BR/><BR/>i) note that I said "being." A "being" doesn't have to be a "human" being.<BR/><BR/>ii) Possible worlds talk usually looks at *logical* possiblity. It may be *physically* impossible now, for *human* beings to live on Mercury or Neptune, but that doesn't mean it is impossible in the broader sense. For example, for all I know, our glorified bodies may be able to live in Mercury or Neptune. So, it is still a *possible* world, even for humans. The *physicality* of humans would just need to be constructed differently. But physical possibility or impossibility doesn't affect possible worlds talk.Errorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10615233201833238198noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-25773919840753319772008-12-12T13:46:00.000-05:002008-12-12T13:46:00.000-05:00Paul: For beings that have lived their whole life ...Paul: For beings that have lived their whole life on Mercury, 100 F is regarded very cold. For beings that have lived their whole life on Neptune, 0 F is regarded very hot. <BR/><BR/>Vytautas: I object this is a possible world. You are allowing for physical conditions that would be hazardous to humans. How can a human live on Mercury or Nepture?Vytautashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10563655929016752682noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-42842329957750592342008-12-12T13:42:00.000-05:002008-12-12T13:42:00.000-05:00Yes, that's right, I forget they put out a new edi...Yes, that's right, I forget they put out a new edition recently.Errorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10615233201833238198noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-80557780842086646392008-12-12T11:13:00.000-05:002008-12-12T11:13:00.000-05:00Is this the book?http://www.amazon.com/Introductio...Is this the book?<BR/><BR/>http://www.amazon.com/Introduction-Logic-13th-MyLogicLab-Irving/dp/0136141390/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1229098196&sr=1-3<BR/><BR/>Looks like it's up to 13 editions!Mhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12784922935749497931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-28989093294654799162008-12-12T10:17:00.000-05:002008-12-12T10:17:00.000-05:00Sean, 8th edition is fine. I have the 9th. I also ...Sean, 8th edition is fine. I have the 9th. I also know a lot of the college logic profs are now using Hurley's Intro to Logic. But Copi's works just as good.Errorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10615233201833238198noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-62556996163984408012008-12-12T10:00:00.000-05:002008-12-12T10:00:00.000-05:00Turns out I have the first two books in my library...Turns out I have the first two books in my library, just need to read them (they're next on my list now). Except I have the 8th edition of the first book, not the 12th. Bummer. Third book now on my to buy list.Seanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08697051930790491821noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-83399949353741130242008-12-12T08:38:00.000-05:002008-12-12T08:38:00.000-05:00Thanks, I fixed those blunders.Sean, Copi & Co...Thanks, I fixed those blunders.<BR/><BR/>Sean, Copi & Cohen's is a stand-by. In the 12th ed. now. It discusses formal logic more, though.<BR/><BR/>Engel has a very good, user friendly, *introduction* to informal fallacies in With Good Reason.<BR/><BR/>Douglas Walton has a more advanced book on informal fallacies in Informal Logic.Errorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10615233201833238198noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-15564133123769415622008-12-12T07:49:00.000-05:002008-12-12T07:49:00.000-05:00Good post, Paul. Just a heads up--The SLED test i...Good post, Paul. Just a heads up--The SLED test is used by pro-lifers--not pro-choicers--to show there is no essential difference between fetus and newborn (or adult) that would justify killing you at the earlier stage of development.<BR/><BR/>Nevertheless, awesome job!SKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01905606527143286458noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-5937253389634483492008-12-11T22:17:00.000-05:002008-12-11T22:17:00.000-05:00Any recommendations on good books to read on logic...Any recommendations on good books to read on logic and critical thinking?Seanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08697051930790491821noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-77525368019831787792008-12-11T22:10:00.000-05:002008-12-11T22:10:00.000-05:00The category error is what I initially saw, too. T...The category error is what I initially saw, too. The real question would not be, when does a temperature become hot? but rather, what makes a temperature a measure of heat energy in the first place?<BR/><BR/>But then, I enjoyed the further lesson in argumentation. Quite instructive. Thank you.<BR/><BR/>Geek alert: beings on Neptune would consider 0 degrees "warm" not "cold," or, at least, all the ones I know would.Gordanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14527530618839981892noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-82737241497718901872008-12-11T16:32:00.000-05:002008-12-11T16:32:00.000-05:00Well, I know one book not to buy for home schoolin...Well, I know one book <I>not</I> to buy for home schooling my kids in critical thinking.<BR/><BR/>I call a category mistake. Damer confuses (temporally changing) stage of development with (unchanging) essential nature.Mike Westfallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06944727980772754938noreply@blogger.com