tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post8621946255488193368..comments2024-03-27T17:15:37.606-04:00Comments on Triablogue: “Pope Francis” Names 14 New CardinalsRyanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17809283662428917799noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-25671860079159191462018-05-23T10:39:15.799-04:002018-05-23T10:39:15.799-04:00Steve, I honestly don't know the answer to tha...Steve, I honestly don't know the answer to that question. Since these roles were typically "for life", I can't think of an instance of that happening. <a href="http://www.catholictradition.org/Tradition/peters-primacy6.htm" rel="nofollow">Tertullian said something about Peter having ordained Clement</a>, but at that same link, the writer says "Note that Tertullian didn't say Peter consecrated Clement as pope, which would have been impossible since a pope doesn't name his own successor; he merely ordained Clement as priest." Who knows? I doubt that Tertullian dealt in "priests". That was a third century development (Cyprian). <br /><br />In the early years, bishops of Rome were selected from among the living Roman presbyters, and there were often major fights over who was going to be elected. The "College of Cardinals" (as electors of the pope) was implemented in the reforms of the 1100's to prevent mostly the interference from the civil government (emperors once claimed the privilege of appointing bishops). <br />John Bugayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17728044301053738095noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-52253599847193816802018-05-23T10:32:46.584-04:002018-05-23T10:32:46.584-04:00Popes weren't always chosen by the College of ...Popes weren't always chosen by the College of Cardinals, were they? That's just a custom that was written into canon law, but popes can rewrite canon law. In theory, couldn't a pope directly appoint a successor? stevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16547070544928321788noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-62412272024196773792018-05-23T09:44:37.104-04:002018-05-23T09:44:37.104-04:00Normally a pope is already dead by the time a conc...Normally a pope is already dead by the time a conclave is held, so he wouldn't be voting anyway. I've seen some talk of resignation, but one would think that he wouldn't do that unless he had all the pieces in place. <br /><br />A thing to consider, too, is that over the next 4-5 years, some huge percentage of the JP2/B16 group that is now eligible will be turning 80, so the numbers that Bergoglio can install are going up. John Bugayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17728044301053738095noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-18188975108331689922018-05-23T09:42:17.864-04:002018-05-23T09:42:17.864-04:00Some of the cardinals chosen by Francis himself wi...Some of the cardinals chosen by Francis himself will be 80 next year and ineligible to vote. So age is cannibalizing his own selections.Vincenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17686738325565738419noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-19189918836224003022018-05-23T09:24:21.566-04:002018-05-23T09:24:21.566-04:00Hi Federico, you may find this to be interesting:
...Hi Federico, you may find this to be interesting:<br /><br /><a href="https://www.ewtn.com/holysee/Interregnum/laws.asp" rel="nofollow">https://www.ewtn.com/holysee/Interregnum/laws.asp</a>John Bugayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17728044301053738095noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-21811019993559898652018-05-23T09:00:36.145-04:002018-05-23T09:00:36.145-04:00What I mean by "only his successor could orda...What I mean by "only his successor could ordain him" is that only the current bishop of Rome can ordain his successorFederico Alvarezhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08516572479160032049noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-83299869595293095842018-05-23T08:59:44.666-04:002018-05-23T08:59:44.666-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.Federico Alvarezhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08516572479160032049noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-81882042621718117262018-05-23T08:58:18.682-04:002018-05-23T08:58:18.682-04:00John, I have a doubt regarding the sacrament of ho...John, I have a doubt regarding the sacrament of holy orders and the way every pope is elected. According to Catholic doctrine, only a person with the third grade of orders, namely a bishop, can ordain. I would imagine that, because of the special place of the bishop of Rome, only his successor could ordain him to that office. If that is so, why is the pope elected by cardinals and not just ordained through the laying of hands by the bishop of Rome?<br /><br />God bless.Federico Alvarezhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08516572479160032049noreply@blogger.com