tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post8006179892740306879..comments2024-03-27T17:15:37.606-04:00Comments on Triablogue: At the crossroads of lifeRyanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17809283662428917799noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-23514308287290372402011-01-25T17:14:19.644-05:002011-01-25T17:14:19.644-05:00"I'm afraid I just can't justify any ..."I'm afraid I just can't justify any more time be spent with the "I'm right and you're wrong ... because I said so" crowd.<br /><br />Buh Bye"<br /><br />aka "I'm a total coward hope you believe my cover story buh bye"Semper Reformandahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14654695501552603164noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-56924306418842669522011-01-25T16:33:35.187-05:002011-01-25T16:33:35.187-05:00I've read some of Peter Hitchen's stuff. H...I've read some of Peter Hitchen's stuff. He's enjoyable to read.stevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16547070544928321788noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-65160583323232313752011-01-25T16:30:51.616-05:002011-01-25T16:30:51.616-05:00Steve. I'm reading the book by Hitchens's ...Steve. I'm reading the book by Hitchens's brother now and quite enjoying it. His brother has also demolished his opponents when he's been on "Unbelievable." Have you heard or read him any?Nickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16175830373964472006noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-2020655702366907502011-01-25T16:01:41.704-05:002011-01-25T16:01:41.704-05:00'Any belief system that warrants eternal torme...'Any belief system that warrants eternal torment as just punishment for unbelief is morally bankrupt in my opinion, and I would guess Hitchens would agree.'<br /><br />Ah, yes, the amoral belief system calling the one of foundations for morality, 'morally bankrupt'. I can see the consistency in this.Steve Drakehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17435371814330595643noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-69814205457892333342011-01-25T15:56:59.078-05:002011-01-25T15:56:59.078-05:00In other words, you can't make a reasoned case...In other words, you can't make a reasoned case for your position. You simply emote.stevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16547070544928321788noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-53579560393345270062011-01-25T15:49:53.325-05:002011-01-25T15:49:53.325-05:00"Assertions can't do the work of argument..."Assertions can't do the work of arguments"<br /><br />I couldn't agree more<br /><br />"So your opinion is worthless."<br /><br />Is that an assertion?<br /><br />I'm afraid I just can't justify any more time be spent with the "I'm right and you're wrong ... because I said so" crowd.<br /><br />Buh ByeDavidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01181354327293762376noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-69833940444453543662011-01-25T15:36:54.829-05:002011-01-25T15:36:54.829-05:00David said...
"Ah yes, the 'he did it fi...David said...<br /><br />"Ah yes, the 'he did it first!' argument. I'm sorry, what was it you were saying about the immaturity of atheists?"<br /><br />Thanks for illustrating your illiteracy. I didn't use the "he did it first!" argument. Rather, I drew *contrast* between his rhetorical register and mine. <br /><br />"Of course as a public figure, Hitchens is fair game in the marketplace of competing ideas. It's just that Xians tend to say they operate by a higher standard, when in reality - it's the same standard as everyone else."<br /><br />What higher standard was violated, exactly? <br /><br />"Any belief system that warrants eternal torment as just punishment for unbelief is morally bankrupt in my opinion, and I would guess Hitchens would agree."<br /><br />Assertions can't do the work of arguments. So your opinion is worthless.stevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16547070544928321788noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-72372009682760971072011-01-25T15:32:54.272-05:002011-01-25T15:32:54.272-05:00"Any belief system that warrants eternal torm...<i>"Any belief system that warrants eternal torment as just punishment for unbelief is morally bankrupt in my opinion, and I would guess Hitchens would agree."</i><br /><br />Opinions have consequences.<br /><br />-------<br /><br />Atheist: There is no God.<br /><br />Christian: There is a triune God and Jesus is our Lord and Savior.<br /><br />The atheist is delusional or the Christian is delusional. The atheist tries to persuade the Christian that the Christian is delusional. The Christian tries to persuade the atheist that the atheist is under a delusion as well.<br /><br />Me? I'm a Bible-believing Christian because it's true. God loves me despite me being a degenerate, depraved, and unworthy sinner and I have responded to His Sacrificial Love on the Cross by acknowledging my sinfulness and repenting of them and acknowledging His Great Love, His Great Mercy, and His Lordship over me.<br /><br />I gratefully submit.<br /><br />Atheists say I'm delusional.<br /><br />I say "Fine" and that they're delusional and that I hope they cease being delusional before it's too late.Truth Unites... and Divideshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08891402278361538353noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-12351365710327957622011-01-25T15:19:22.455-05:002011-01-25T15:19:22.455-05:00"Compare the tone of my post with the tone of..."Compare the tone of my post with the tone of god is not Great and ask yourself which one of us resorted to “mocking and insulting those who believe differently.”<br /><br />Ah yes, the 'he did it first!' argument. I'm sorry, what was it you were saying about the immaturity of atheists?<br /><br />Of course as a public figure, Hitchens is fair game in the marketplace of competing ideas. It's just that Xians tend to say they operate by a higher standard, when in reality - it's the same standard as everyone else. <br /><br />Any belief system that warrants eternal torment as just punishment for unbelief is morally bankrupt in my opinion, and I would guess Hitchens would agree.Davidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01181354327293762376noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-27554216554102139532011-01-25T13:02:02.375-05:002011-01-25T13:02:02.375-05:00Annoyed Pinoy,
Fascinating sources from Shaw and D...Annoyed Pinoy,<br />Fascinating sources from Shaw and Davis. Only had a chance to cursively peruse the pages of these 19th century books from the URL's you posted, but what I saw was stand up biblical.Steve Drakehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17435371814330595643noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-27475165628058386962011-01-25T12:55:08.535-05:002011-01-25T12:55:08.535-05:00Notice the cruelty of atheism. The emotional coerc...<i>Notice the cruelty of atheism. The emotional coercion. “Christopher, you must do us proud by the way you die. This is the true test of your loyalty to the team. Don’t flinch! Don’t let us down! Don’t make us look bad! Put on a good show.”</i><br /><br />Surely atheists say these types of things to each other out of kindness to encourage one another. Not realizing that it's the way to eternal death. Reminds me of Proverbs 12:10 <br />"A righteous man regardeth the life of his beast: <i>but the tender mercies of the wicked are cruel.</i>"ANNOYED PINOYhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00714774340084597206noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-72062278704717378312011-01-25T12:49:14.546-05:002011-01-25T12:49:14.546-05:00I'll take one of those bumper stickers.I'll take one of those bumper stickers.Jim Pembertonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01446388434272680014noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-84507279944777390072011-01-25T12:47:22.476-05:002011-01-25T12:47:22.476-05:00"He wants us to share his outlook. But that, ...<i>"He wants us to share his outlook. But that, in turn, invites my evaluation. If some frothing infidels are too blinded by their perpetual rage against all things Christian to perceive the evident parity between Hitchens’ parting words and my parting words, then that’s just another symptom of their immaturity.</i>"<br /><br />The immature atheist.<br /><br />The angry atheist.<br /><br />The pseudo-intellectual atheist.<br /><br />Conclusion: Just Say NO to atheism. <br /><br /><i>"As a matter of fact, your worldview is no better than how it looks from the viewpoint of the cemetery. That’s the final test of a worldview."</i><br /><br />It looks like Hitchens will fail The Test. Because Atheism fails The Test.<br /><br /><i>"Notice the cruelty of atheism. The emotional coercion. “Christopher, you must do us proud by the way you die. This is the true test of your loyalty to the team. Don’t flinch! Don’t let us down! Don’t make us look bad! Put on a good show.”<br />It’s a mark of their irrepressible insecurity that infidels pressure fellow infidels to keep up appearances to the bitter end. That doesn’t show any real concern for the dying."</i><br /><br />The cruel atheist.<br /><br />The cruelty of atheism.<br /><br />Just Say No to the lies of atheism.Truth Unites... and Divideshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08891402278361538353noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-56361911442720234152011-01-25T12:39:53.133-05:002011-01-25T12:39:53.133-05:00Dying Testimonies of Saved and Unsaved by S.B. Sha...Dying Testimonies of Saved and Unsaved by S.B. Shaw<br /><br />http://www.biblebelievers.com/dying_testimonies/index.html (I disagree with many things from this website. It just happens to have a copy of this book first published in 1898).<br /><br />Death-Bed Scenes; OR, Dying With and Without Religion by Davis W. Clark<br /><br />http://books.google.com/books?id=fy20dDbgu-MC&dq=deathbed%20scenes%20by%20davis%20clark&pg=PA3#v=onepage&q&f=falseANNOYED PINOYhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00714774340084597206noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-64808337177988431942011-01-25T11:57:43.892-05:002011-01-25T11:57:43.892-05:00A short, rather well laid out book by author James...A short, rather well laid out book by author James S. Spielgel, 'The Making of an Atheist: How Immorality Leads to Unbelief' could be very well be appropo in the case of Hitchens.<br /><br />Spielgel says: 'The descent into atheism is caused by a complex of moral-psychological factors, not a perceived lack of evidence for God's existence. The atheist willfully rejects God, though this is precipitated by immoral indulgences and typically a broken relationship with his or her father. Thus, the choice of the atheistic paradigm is motivated by non-rational factors, some of which are psychological and some of which are moral in nature.'<br /><br />He continues, 'The hardening of the atheistic mind-set occurs through cognitive malfunction due to two principal factors. First, atheists suffer from paradigm-induced blindness, as their worldview inhibits their ability to recognize the reality of God that is manifest in creation. Second, atheists suffer from damage to the 'sensus divinitatis', so their natural awareness of God is severely impeded. Both of these mechanisms are aspects of the noetic effects of sin.'<br /><br />He concludes, 'This combination of factors amounts to a deadly cognitive cocktail when it comes to religious belief. However, thankfully, even the atheist is not beyond reach of the redemptive power of God' (p.113,114).<br /><br />May our gracious Lord, still yet, pull Mr. Hitchens from the powerful clutches of Hell.Steve Drakehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17435371814330595643noreply@blogger.com