tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post784996310179043619..comments2024-03-27T17:15:37.606-04:00Comments on Triablogue: The historicity of JohnRyanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17809283662428917799noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-48110436720478643062016-03-28T18:10:37.772-04:002016-03-28T18:10:37.772-04:00I'll just leave this here
http://biblicalstudi...I'll just leave this here<br />http://biblicalstudies.org.uk/article_historical_dwenham.html<br /><br />He echoes some of my thoughts near the end! Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-65128178421398680112016-03-25T22:56:25.900-04:002016-03-25T22:56:25.900-04:00Good points in their own right. However, I anticip...Good points in their own right. However, I anticipated the question of Luke's gentile audience in my post. As for Mark, I think he probably has a mixed audience. If it was penned with the church of Rome in mind, I believe that was, at the time of writing, a collection of Gentile and Messianic Jewish house-churches. stevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16547070544928321788noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-1808565809809379332016-03-25T15:34:44.236-04:002016-03-25T15:34:44.236-04:00Thoughtful post, though I'm not sure about the...Thoughtful post, though I'm not sure about the gentile/Jewish explanation. Because when we look at Mark and Luke they're both written for a more gentile audience and they aren't as explicitly Christological as John, plus I don't see anything that suggest Matthew is less explicit on Jesus's deity than say Luke or Mark.<br /><br />My explanation from reading the gospels is that the synoptics as opposed to John focus far more on Jesus's public ministry, when I read the synoptics as compared to John I was struck my how much the synoptics focus on these issues as opposed to John. Large swaths of space in the synoptics is dedicated to issues like: Jesus's birth, his baptism , his miracles, his parables, his teachings as well as his exorcims leaving less space for the sort of things John records in his gospel. John focuses much less on these issues, he has almost no parables ( unless you consider the vine and branches teaching a parable) has no exorcisms and focuses much less on Jesus's teachings,(no sermon on the mount etc) as well as no birth accounts. John focuses on a more theological gospel,its more personal and because he focuses much less on Jesus's public ministry he has more space to focus on Jesus's words on his person, his deity as well as his interactions with Jerusalem leaders.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-52635557911000605332016-03-25T05:10:31.084-04:002016-03-25T05:10:31.084-04:00As early as the second century, Christians were re...As early as the second century, Christians were reporting that John's gospel had been written to supplement the others. Most likely, the Synoptics were written around the same time, <a href="http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2014/07/early-external-evidence-for-early-date.html" rel="nofollow">before the destruction of Jerusalem</a>, whereas John was written decades later by somebody who set out to make his account markedly different than the previous ones. As early as the opening decades of the second century, we see John's gospel grouped with the other gospels and interpreted as a historical account, which is best explained if John was writing in a historical genre and intended his work to agree with and supplement the Synoptics. That sort of external evidence needs to be explained, <a href="http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2007/10/neglect-of-external-evidence.html" rel="nofollow">not ignored</a>.<br /><br />We already see high Christology not only in the Synoptics, but also in Paul and the Old Testament (e.g., Isaiah 9:6, 52:13; for more about those passages, see <a href="http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2006/12/unto-us-son-is-given.html" rel="nofollow">here</a> and <a href="http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2015/03/is-servant-of-isaiah-53-israel-or.html" rel="nofollow">here</a>). John's high Christology just gives more emphasis to a theme already present in earlier sources.Jason Engwerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17031011335190895123noreply@blogger.com