tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post6951746568065680468..comments2024-03-27T17:15:37.606-04:00Comments on Triablogue: All WetRyanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17809283662428917799noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-76102075718095549372008-01-13T00:49:00.000-05:002008-01-13T00:49:00.000-05:00The argument has tossed in the towel to special pl...The argument has tossed in the towel to special pleading. Paul is now an occultist.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-42962141299463484592008-01-12T09:13:00.000-05:002008-01-12T09:13:00.000-05:00Anonymous said:"I guess that since it is the 'comm...Anonymous said:<BR/><BR/>"I guess that since it is the 'common ground' of catholics to recognise holy water, that God uses it among them. Sounds like Gene just ceded the whole argument. If God is in the business of doing things on that basis then Gene has effectively given himself the burden of proof to show that holy water does nothing.... ever."<BR/><BR/>Dabbling in the occult can also "do" things. Does that sanction the occult?stevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16547070544928321788noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-28853695726218193222008-01-12T06:34:00.000-05:002008-01-12T06:34:00.000-05:00It therefore is not unnatural that just as Paul me...<I>It therefore is not unnatural that just as Paul met his audiences on common ground ideologically to lead them to Christ, so at Ephesus, he acted this way.</I><BR/><BR/>I guess that since it is the "common ground" of catholics to recognise holy water, that God uses it among them. Sounds like Gene just ceded the whole argument. If God is in the business of doing things on that basis then Gene has effectively given himself the burden of proof to show that holy water does nothing.... ever.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-51271118111471519892008-01-10T14:02:00.000-05:002008-01-10T14:02:00.000-05:00p\/\/|\|3dp\/\/|\|3dRhologyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14245825667079220242noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-11299350383571625132008-01-10T12:46:00.000-05:002008-01-10T12:46:00.000-05:00Gene, I think you are not understanding the great ...Gene, <BR/><BR/>I think you are not understanding the <A HREF="http://beggarsallreformation.blogspot.com/2008/01/holy-holy-orders.html" REL="nofollow">great power of priests.</A><BR/><BR/>(excellent post, btw)Carriehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04697072499214349759noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-90661438300701921312008-01-10T10:53:00.000-05:002008-01-10T10:53:00.000-05:00Dave uses the last text you cited in his "Catholic...Dave uses the last text you cited in his "Catholic Verses" to 'prove' the validity of 'holy relics'.<BR/><BR/>In fact, I was reading Philip Schaff's "History of the Christian Church", and it seems that that verse has been used as such since the early post-Nicene era.<BR/><BR/>As I see it, the problem isn't in the idea of objects being used by God for healing (such as the hem of Jesus' clothing to heal the woman with disease). The problem that Rome or Constantinople or anyone else for that matter has is in validly identifying such objects as truly being 'holy relics'. I think that it was Luther who said that the bones of 15 of the 12 apostles could be found in Spain alone. :)<BR/><BR/>Then, of course, there is always the issue of the 'veneration' of those relics (i.e. idolatry).Saint and Sinnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14166699860672840738noreply@blogger.com