tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post6935343599799498071..comments2024-03-27T17:15:37.606-04:00Comments on Triablogue: UnChristian?Ryanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17809283662428917799noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-13512680637613601362008-04-30T10:41:00.000-04:002008-04-30T10:41:00.000-04:00You said there was a "lack of compassion" and "gra...You said there was a "lack of compassion" and "gratuitous ad hominem." I ask: how so? Where is the lack of compassion (I mean besides on your part)? Where is the gratuitious ad hominem (I mean besides on your part)?Peter Pikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11792036365040378473noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-69949976464246371992008-04-30T01:53:00.000-04:002008-04-30T01:53:00.000-04:00How so what?How so what?JJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11536602476561826410noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-86882384008549621562008-04-29T23:48:00.000-04:002008-04-29T23:48:00.000-04:00How so, Jan?How so, Jan?Peter Pikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11792036365040378473noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-51562396646036004832008-04-29T22:36:00.000-04:002008-04-29T22:36:00.000-04:00There's a difference between constructive criticis...There's a difference between constructive criticism and gratuitous ad-hominem.<BR/><BR/>So you won't mind me holding up a mirror and pointing out the lack of compassion around here, and by your own definition, are non-Christian.JJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11536602476561826410noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-86339762441009227412008-04-28T13:38:00.000-04:002008-04-28T13:38:00.000-04:00This is an AWESOME post! I'd actually break down ...This is an AWESOME post! <BR/><BR/>I'd actually break down the analysis even further. Godlovers are being pharasaically judged by TWO sets of people:<BR/><BR/>(One) Godhaters. Be they atheists, neo-pagans, or followers of some false religion.<BR/><BR/>(Two) "Liberal" Christians. Mainline liberals, postmodern emergers, and some "wide gate" evangelicals.<BR/><BR/>Frankly, the leftwing legalistic judgmentalism of "liberal" Christians bothers me more than Godhaters. They are underminers of the Gospel. It's unfortunate that there has to be an internal civil war between Godlovers and professing "liberal" Christians.Truth Unites... and Divideshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08891402278361538353noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-51907960636135139762008-04-28T10:24:00.000-04:002008-04-28T10:24:00.000-04:00Jan said:---It's not accusations and lack of fluff...Jan said:<BR/>---<BR/>It's not accusations and lack of fluffy teddy bears that I'm talking about. It is plain old fashioned ad-hominem.<BR/>---<BR/><BR/>You mean like accusing us of being pride-filled and lacking compassion rather than dealing with any arguments presented? That kind of ad hominem?<BR/><BR/>Jan said:<BR/>---<BR/>It's all the more ironic because supposedly Calvinists are chosen, NOT because of how smart, clever or spiritual they are but because of God's choice. So why all the name calling around here about how dumb other people are?<BR/>---<BR/><BR/>That you think your question follows from your statement is one reason.<BR/><BR/>Really, all we do is hold up a mirror. If you look at it and don't like what you see, instead of brushing your hair you yell at us for holding up the mirror in the first place. Yeah, that solves the problem.<BR/><BR/>If someone says something that is irrational and we point out that it is irrational, that person is going to look like an idiot. That's because idiots are irrational. If they continue in it, they're going to continue looking idiotic. Sometimes the only way for them to see that they're behaving idiotically is for someone to point it out.<BR/><BR/>But apparently your Bible doesn't include Proverbs 9:8: "<B>Do not reprove a scoffer, or he will hate you; reprove a wise man, and he will love you.</B>"<BR/><BR/>So if we rebuke you it's because we assume you're wise enough to grasp it. But you prove yourself to be a scoffer if you hate us in response.<BR/><BR/>Again, I'll just hold up the mirror for you.Peter Pikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11792036365040378473noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-79939608383906936792008-04-28T01:57:00.000-04:002008-04-28T01:57:00.000-04:00It's not accusations and lack of fluffy teddy bear...It's not accusations and lack of fluffy teddy bears that I'm talking about. It is plain old fashioned ad-hominem.<BR/><BR/>It's all the more ironic because supposedly Calvinists are chosen, NOT because of how smart, clever or spiritual they are but because of God's choice. So why all the name calling around here about how dumb other people are?JJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11536602476561826410noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-81378691471443730152008-04-27T23:48:00.000-04:002008-04-27T23:48:00.000-04:00Jan said:---Well, clearly the prideful name callin...Jan said:<BR/>---<BR/>Well, clearly the prideful name calling of the Triabloguers means they lack the compassion to be labeled "Christian".<BR/>---<BR/><BR/>That's rather judgmental of you, don't you think? <BR/><BR/>I, for one, never call people names out of pride. I call them names because "Hey, you" seems a little less personal.<BR/><BR/>Jan, dearest, if you were a loving person you would immediately feel bad for accusing us of evil. You better say you're sorry and send me a big fluffy teddy bear and offer me a foot massage. If you don't, it'll be proof you're a hatefilled spiritual mercenary bent on slaughtering the world with your vituperous apostasies that drip from your lips like venom from the fangs of a rattlesnake that's been left drying on the freeway for the past three days. In other words, you'd be just like Joel Osteen.<BR/><BR/>But don't let me keep you from taking pride in your greater humility. Of course, you won't understand any of the above post. Not because you're spiritually dead, but because you lack the prerequisite hardware needed for epistemology. I don't mean that metaphorically either.Peter Pikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11792036365040378473noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-81081187858134072202008-04-27T19:54:00.000-04:002008-04-27T19:54:00.000-04:00"No Godlover denies that Christians are to be peop..."No Godlover denies that Christians are to be people of compassion and service".<BR/><BR/>Well, clearly the prideful name calling of the Triabloguers means they lack the compassion to be labeled "Christian".<BR/><BR/>Of course, we probably won't see them admit this, which I guess means that they are spiritually dead.JJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11536602476561826410noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-39798488495136224132008-04-26T22:35:00.000-04:002008-04-26T22:35:00.000-04:00WOW; Excellent analysis and commentary! I merely ...WOW; Excellent analysis and commentary! I merely add: "For to God we are the fragrance of Christ among those who are being saved and among those who are perishing. To some we are a scent of death leading to death, but to others, a scent of life leading to life." [2 Cor. 2:15, 16 (HCSB)]<BR/><BR/>Our Lord leaves us here after saving us for ONE reason: Preach the RHEMA (Rom. 10:17); all else that we do is secondary (yet essential) ministry* necessitated only because His plan of redemption entails that He leave us here to evangelize.<BR/><BR/>* Truthfully, most of what most of us do is wood, hay and stubble; nevertheless, the irrefutable Truth of what we value is how we use our time.Jim McDermotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14735719533525784002noreply@blogger.com