tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post586719861055824073..comments2024-03-14T14:41:17.663-04:00Comments on Triablogue: Winning Where it’s ImportantRyanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17809283662428917799noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-15356721907440534462012-11-15T15:36:14.504-05:002012-11-15T15:36:14.504-05:00Tim, what decade are you talking about? Ever watch...Tim, what decade are you talking about? Ever watch an episode of the Daily Show recently? Tell us again who are the culture warriors?<br /><br />You also commit a non sequitur. Seriously, have you ever come across a liberal who said, "If only a conservative would help me when I have a flat, I'd change all my views!"? Are you unaware that conservatives statistically are more generous with their own resources than liberals? What the heck are you talking about, I guess is the question.C. Andironhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04850876481256430215noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-54771500387302551862012-11-15T10:34:20.797-05:002012-11-15T10:34:20.797-05:00Wilson's three sessions, a total of almost 3 h...Wilson's three sessions, a total of almost 3 hours, are well worth watching and listening to, IMO. All Christians in the USA should watch them; and hopefully lots of unbelievers are going to watch them and listen to them.<br /><br />Kenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17824685809003307918noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-32661911100437310632012-11-15T09:44:47.297-05:002012-11-15T09:44:47.297-05:00What, politically speaking, is fussing about the o...<i>What, politically speaking, is fussing about the outcome of a presidential election to that?</i><br /><br />I think Christians will have tremendous opportunities over the coming years to show the winsomeness of the Gospel. The Gospel is first, and then those "good works prepared beforehand, that we should walk in them". John Bugayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17728044301053738095noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-86877977468055913302012-11-15T09:38:56.273-05:002012-11-15T09:38:56.273-05:00Hi Ken, I hadn't seen the Wilson lectures, but...Hi Ken, I hadn't seen the Wilson lectures, but I'll give them a look. I understand that things look bad at certain levels, but not everything is all bad. Not all of our problems will be solved by politics, and in the US, things seem to be set up to swing like a pendulum. If you can imagine that the Republicans will win in 2016, and if you can imagine that Roe v Wade can be set aside by a future Supreme Court, you can also imagine that lots of Republican state legislature can write lots of laws restricting and prohibiting abortion. But you also have to imagine that an enduring majority of people will want it to be prohibited. What I'm saying here is, there's lots to do. But there's also hope. John Bugayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17728044301053738095noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-24115369969604872042012-11-15T08:57:55.455-05:002012-11-15T08:57:55.455-05:00I agree, but it is hard to remain calm when the ho...I agree, but it is hard to remain calm when the house is burning down . . . <br /><br />Douglas Wilson's lectures at Indiana University on Creation Sexuality were the best cultural engagement I have seen in a long time; maybe the best ever that I can think of. He was a lot calmer and kind and winsome that I would have been. He modeled the right way to respond when they were heckling him and attacking him. <br /><br />http://beggarsallreformation.blogspot.com/2012/06/thank-you-douglas-wilson.html<br /><br />It is really hard to be calm when civilization is crumbling - the "gay agenda" and "same sex marriage" being accepted in the mainstream; 3 states passing "same sex marriage", etc.; is a new watershed historical event. Abortion has been around and 1973 was a water-shed event (Roe vs. Wade) - and of course homosexuality has been around since before Sodom and Ghomorrah. The difference is now, it is no longer underground and shameful and disgusting and made fun of; like it was when we were in high school 35 years ago. <br /><br />It is now approaching being accepted more and more and also, the state government seeks to get behind it, so that even our free speech to call something sin is going to be scrutinized by "hate crimes" courts, etc. - see article on Canada.<br /><br />http://www.thepublicdiscourse.com/2012/11/6758/<br /><br /><br />Kenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17824685809003307918noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-12997003498429541792012-11-15T07:41:50.855-05:002012-11-15T07:41:50.855-05:00And, it must be noted, winning the culture over th...And, it must be noted, winning the culture over the long term necessarily implies innumerable small-scale "battles" - most of them not even needing to be portrayed as battles. Conservatives need to learn to sit down with people with whom they disagree and have calm, rational conversations about the Good rather than vehement argue-fests that only make them look like anxious, intemperate, unkind culture warriors. If "politics" is the art of living in community with one's neighbors (and it is), the real political acts that will, over long periods of time, change the culture might be as simple as stopping to help a stranger change a flat tire because you see he's got one of those dumb scissor-jacks and is having trouble getting his lugnuts loose and his car jacked up. What, politically speaking, is fussing about the outcome of a presidential election to that?Tim Enloehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00496999199258689044noreply@blogger.com