tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post5718636821009647485..comments2024-03-27T17:15:37.606-04:00Comments on Triablogue: The Epistemological Foundation for “The Roman Catholic System”Ryanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17809283662428917799noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-57830269223798364902012-12-07T09:09:38.329-05:002012-12-07T09:09:38.329-05:00Hi Nathan. I will try to take a look at your conve...Hi Nathan. I will try to take a look at your conversation with Nathaniel when I have time. Interesting, in what were among Luther's first words of the Reformation, he says, "say what a thing is". <br /><br />Can you provide some references, either online or print sources, for the Flacius and Gerhard works you mentioned? <br /><br />Finally, how do you perceive the differences between the Reformed and Luthetan ecclesiologies that you mentioned in your last paragraph?John Bugayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17728044301053738095noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-13859392936193224192012-12-07T08:33:31.368-05:002012-12-07T08:33:31.368-05:00and insisted on for salvation.
should be:
and no...and insisted on for salvation.<br /><br />should be:<br /><br />and not insisted on for salvation.<br />Nathanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18235437889789484774noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-5611523459281837592012-12-07T08:32:24.382-05:002012-12-07T08:32:24.382-05:00John,
I think that this is largely accurate. I t...John,<br /><br />I think that this is largely accurate. I think this could be clearly seen to come out in my debate with Dave Armstrong (though Dave proved to be a very civil debating partner I must say)about Martin Chemnitz's view of Church history/reception of doctrine/ecclesiology (his views can also be seen in Flacius, who developed Luther's thoughts, and after Chemnitz came Gerhard's magisterial treatment of the topic). <br /><br />At issue in my debate with David is the distinction between those traditions which conform to Scripture and can be seen to do so (albeit sometimes only after paying attention to the Fathers as well), and those traditions which are useful, promote good order, and are done for the sake of brotherly love, and insisted on for salvation. <br /><br />This argument was summarized and taken to new levels (dealing with objections and fleshed out with more historical detail) in my ongoing discussion with a RC gentelman named Nathaniel: <br /><br />http://infanttheology.wordpress.com/2011/11/03/reformation-history-what-would-you-have-done/ <br /><br />I note all of this because I think this also highlights differences in how the Reformed and the Lutherans developed their own understandings of ecclesiology and church history.<br /><br />+Nathan Nathanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18235437889789484774noreply@blogger.com