tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post5532789733921039436..comments2024-03-27T17:15:37.606-04:00Comments on Triablogue: The wrath of God disincarnateRyanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17809283662428917799noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-14236164969926169172010-07-04T22:39:22.375-04:002010-07-04T22:39:22.375-04:00Good comments. Thanks, guys.Good comments. Thanks, guys.Patrick Chanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16095377877712197984noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-86184861092935112752010-07-02T01:44:53.831-04:002010-07-02T01:44:53.831-04:00When Dark Knight screened, it was widely described...When <i>Dark Knight</i> screened, it was widely described as a parable of the war on al-Qaeda. I did not one ironic reversal: in the real world, it's generally considered permissible to kill al-Qaeda/ Taliban fighters in battle, but it's very controversial (to say the least) to torture them. On the other hand, Batman regularly tortures his enemies (beating the Joker, hanging Carmine over a balcony) but they know that he won't kill them.Tom Rhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06246157794276270490noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-68168398875115091292010-07-01T02:25:02.765-04:002010-07-01T02:25:02.765-04:00A lot of the points you make about Batman are more...A lot of the points you make about Batman are more true of the comics than Batman as he is depicted in the cartoons helmed by Paul Dini. One of the problems with Batman as a character is there are a lot of people who want to write "adult" Batman stories and so that means they want to introduce moral ambiguity. It's not that a writer couldn't explain why Batman refuses to kill the Joker (after all, Batman could refuse to kill because that's the one crime whose effect can't be undone and he doesn't want to be that kind of criminal) but that writers are too busy wanting to show how the two characters are somehow mirrored twins. Attempting to impose yin and yang on a fundamentally WASPy character and his narrative world goes predictably soft.Wenatchee the Hatchethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13208892745502555715noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-12938935209053477592010-07-01T02:14:24.672-04:002010-07-01T02:14:24.672-04:00You probably already know this but in the late 193...You probably already know this but in the late 1930s when he first appeared Batman remorselessly killed all sorts of people. Robin, in HIS first appearance, clearly and obviously kills something like three people. An editorial decision was made early on that if these comics were being sold to children and the brand was going to survive the Code (to paint with a rather broad narrative brush) Batman had to have a principle against killing. One of the first and most important ret-cons in superhero history, as the phrase goes.Wenatchee the Hatchethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13208892745502555715noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-73518847530405917332010-06-30T18:42:06.847-04:002010-06-30T18:42:06.847-04:00I thought for a minute I was at the Christian Comi...<b>I thought for a minute I was at the Christian Comic Arts chat forum when I saw this topic.</b><br /><br />If only I had the talent to be a comic book writer and illustrator...Patrick Chanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16095377877712197984noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-59122580116548539452010-06-30T18:38:06.311-04:002010-06-30T18:38:06.311-04:00Thanks for your comments, guys.Thanks for your comments, guys.Patrick Chanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16095377877712197984noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-46603411385340465642010-06-30T16:50:02.273-04:002010-06-30T16:50:02.273-04:00Batman is good. My favorite character is perhaps o...Batman is good. My favorite character is perhaps one of the most black and white were he not the man of bronze: Doc Savage. And unless today's writers completely change his character, he will continue to be as unequivocally black-and-white as he was originally created to be.Jim Pembertonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01446388434272680014noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-28474927278917797332010-06-30T10:40:39.930-04:002010-06-30T10:40:39.930-04:00I thought for a minute I was at the Christian Comi...I thought for a minute I was at the Christian Comic Arts chat forum when I saw this topic. Some good insights about Batman, and if you're looking for an interesting read about that character distinction of mercy vs. execution, check out Chuck Dixon's "Punisher/Batman" title that came out a few years ago. The comic features a sequence in which the Punisher more or less corners the Joker and plans to kill him, and ironically Batman is the one to save/spare Joker. Its an interesting character parallel throughout the book, and Dixon's story with John Romita Jrs art make for an excellent combination.Robhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13068196575763786944noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-70873501582966007592010-06-30T02:02:03.489-04:002010-06-30T02:02:03.489-04:00Very nice post Patrick.
I think you're spot-o...Very nice post Patrick.<br /><br />I think you're spot-on in your diagnosis.Truth Unites... and Divideshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08891402278361538353noreply@blogger.com