tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post4506446048919593281..comments2024-03-27T17:15:37.606-04:00Comments on Triablogue: What does it mean to sit on Moses' seat?Ryanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17809283662428917799noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-13901074418325810062009-09-13T15:27:36.737-04:002009-09-13T15:27:36.737-04:00Mathetes,
Quadratus lived in the first half of th...Mathetes,<br /><br />Quadratus lived in the first half of the second century, and Eusebius quotes something he wrote in a work that's no longer extant:<br /><br />"But the works of our Saviour were always present, for they were genuine:— those that were healed, and those that were raised from the dead, who were seen not only when they were healed and when they were raised, but were also always present; and not merely while the Saviour was on earth, but also after his death, they were alive for quite a while, so that some of them lived even to our day." (Church History, 4:3:2)<br /><br />Papias refers to some miracles of the apostolic era not recorded in scripture (Eusebius, Church History, 3:39:9). Ignatius makes an apparent reference to the resurrection of Matthew 27:52-53 that includes information not found in Matthew's gospel, suggesting that he may have had access to some other source on the issue (Letter To The Magnesians, 9). I cite other relevant material in my Triablogue article linked above.<br /><br />If you're including fulfilled prophecy in the category of Jesus' miracles, then more examples of extra-Biblical sources could be cited. There's corroboration of Jesus' birth in Bethlehem in the emperor Hadrian's desecration of the birth site, Justin Martyr's reference to a record of the birthplace in the Roman archives, etc. Even something as non-controversial as the timing of Jesus' life or His crucifixion has prophetic implications, and there are many Christian and non-Christian sources who refer to such things. You might be interested in my article on fulfilled prophecy <a href="http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2006/07/evidence-of-prophecy.html" rel="nofollow">here</a>.Jason Engwerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17031011335190895123noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-21032338833885112632009-09-13T13:47:14.808-04:002009-09-13T13:47:14.808-04:00Thanks for the tips, Jason, I'll check it out....Thanks for the tips, Jason, I'll check it out. I remember your article was kind of interesting because you mentioned someone named Quadratus, who reported knowing people who had been healed by Jesus. It was interesting, because I had never heard that line of evidence before. Anyways, I'll check out those articles...thanks!Matheteshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13527032591499860552noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-60971454894162975042009-09-13T13:33:31.672-04:002009-09-13T13:33:31.672-04:00Mathetes,
Some pages have come up for me, and oth...Mathetes,<br /><br />Some pages have come up for me, and others haven't. I've had the same experience with other web sites when I use archive.org. You can try navigating your way back to the thread you're looking for from the thread I linked above.<br /><br />But if the subject you're interested in is "extra-scriptural accounts of Jesus and His miracles", I've addressed that subject here in the past. See, for example, <a href="http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2008/10/christ-bowl.html" rel="nofollow">this thread</a>.Jason Engwerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17031011335190895123noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-35489887640759814642009-09-13T08:01:53.710-04:002009-09-13T08:01:53.710-04:00Hi Jason,
How are you finding threads from Eric&#...Hi Jason,<br /><br />How are you finding threads from Eric's old board on archive.org? When I try using it, I can see the main page, but when I try to click on a thread, I just get a page saying "not in archive".<br /><br />I ask because I remember asked you about extra-scriptural accounts of Jesus and His miracles, but I didn't get a chance to save it before the board went under.Matheteshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13527032591499860552noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-10745133964558170042009-09-12T19:23:26.902-04:002009-09-12T19:23:26.902-04:00Here's a thread from a few years ago, in which...<a href="http://web.archive.org/web/20040325045636/pub84.ezboard.com/fntrmindiscussionboardfrm9.showMessage?topicID=708.topic" rel="nofollow">Here's</a> a thread from a few years ago, in which David King and I cite some patristic comments on the passage. See, also, Irenaeus in Against Heresies, 4:12:4.Jason Engwerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17031011335190895123noreply@blogger.com