tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post4420120293060147183..comments2024-03-27T17:15:37.606-04:00Comments on Triablogue: Geoplanar tectonicsRyanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17809283662428917799noreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-56555490458725016582010-10-08T14:06:20.101-04:002010-10-08T14:06:20.101-04:00Edward Babinski said:
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All stellar objects are ...Edward Babinski said:<br />---<br />All stellar objects are also spoken of in the Bible as not only being placed above the earth after its creation but also as moving above the earth...<br />---<br /><br />Um, Relativity 101: movement is defined by a frame of reference. It is equally valid to say *NOW* that the moon is moving above the Earth. From our perspective, it is. If we were on the moon, we'd say the *EARTH* was moving. If we were outside of the solar system, we'd say *BOTH* were moving. Etc.<br /><br />Since the Bible clearly has a frame of reference in mind (people on Earth), the fact that it references movement according to that frame of reference is...what's the word I'm looking for? Oh yes: EXPECTED.Peter Pikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11792036365040378473noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-69291601336734595322010-10-08T13:43:06.459-04:002010-10-08T13:43:06.459-04:00Steve, Nobody says that an earthquake on a flat ea...Steve, Nobody says that an earthquake on a flat earth is the same as tiling a pizza. The earth in the Bible is "shaken" not "tilted" like a pizza. <br /><br />Also, the Bible says the earth is founded firmly by God, it will not be moved, but it also says that God sometimes shakes the earth, even the heavens and the earth together. <br /><br />So these are both great acts of God perpetrated directly by God, displays of His power. <br /><br />The very fact that the earth does not move is a display of God's power to the ancient mind. <br /><br />So was the fact that the same God who could keep the earth steady, also had the power to shake it at will. <br /><br />That kind of language is suited to both flat earth and geocentric cosmic views, as today's Christian geocentrists also point out. <br /><br />All stellar objects are also spoken of in the Bible as not only being placed above the earth after its creation but also as moving above the earth--all moved and/or directed by God, who also has the power to stop them, as in the book of Joshua, or like in Job where it says God can stop the sun, and that God directs the constellations in their movements. <br /><br />Taken together with the verses about the earth's immobility, it's plainly a flat earth and/or a geocentric cosmos in the eyes of the ancients.<br /><br />But if the earth is constantly spinning like a top and also rushing round the sun in a huge hyperbolic ring each year, and if earthquakes are the natural consequence of continental drift, and if the sun and constellations are not being directed, nor even moving at all through the sky, then how is God's power demonstrated? Geocentrists point out it's putting the lie to all the Bible verses about such direct demonstrations of God's power. <br /><br />Instead your reply is to assume that earthquake in the Bible means the earth was tilted like a pizza?Edwardtbabinskihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13036816926421936940noreply@blogger.com