tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post3897959265431598387..comments2024-03-14T14:41:17.663-04:00Comments on Triablogue: The shadowRyanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17809283662428917799noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-12730042561952620272018-03-29T21:26:28.426-04:002018-03-29T21:26:28.426-04:00I've also noticed a kind of progression in Pet...I've also noticed a kind of progression in Peterson's affiliation with Christianity. From a kind of appreciation of it to a willingness to consider himself in the Christian tradition to now a "Christian" in some sense even though he admits he doesn't hold to all the traditional dogmas. Notice how he's willing to accept that he "represents" the Christian side in his dialogue with the Jewish representative Ben Shapiro in gay atheist Dave Rubin's The Rubin Report [relevant excerpt of the video <a href="https://youtu.be/pHiXXY9GFEs" rel="nofollow">HERE</a>; FULL interview <a href="https://youtu.be/iRPDGEgaATU" rel="nofollow">HERE</a>]. I recommend Christians pray for Peterson that his eyes be opened so that he can see how much of his philosophy borrows from Christianity in a way that he cannot legitimately utilize unless and until he becomes a genuine Christian. I've even heard him say that he's not convinced that Jesus may have literally been raised from the dead, but that he'd have to study the issue more because he hasn't ruled it out yet. Since he believes the world is much more mysterious than most of us realize. At the same time, he's hostile to dogmatic Christianity. <a href="https://youtu.be/xV4oIqnaxlg" rel="nofollow">As can be seen in his response to William Lane Craig's opening statement in their dialogue together with Rebecca Goldstein, where Craig argued that there is no objective transcendent meaning to life apart from God</a>. If, by God's grace, he did become a Christian, he could be a powerful witness. But he would need to be informed on so many theological and philosophical issues for him to be more helpful than harmful. Since new converts often spout a lot of heresy along with truth. ANNOYED PINOYhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00714774340084597206noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-35395507756574979992018-03-29T21:25:24.571-04:002018-03-29T21:25:24.571-04:00Also, Peterson's interpretations of the myths ...Also, Peterson's interpretations of the myths virtually assumes a Pelagian approach to life and "salvation". Which isn't surprising since most non-Christian spiritualities and myths are Pelagianian-like to begin with. It's the natural spiritual approach of fallen sinful man. Pelagian meaning "salvation" ultimately depends on oneself. Virtually all non-Christian philosophies of life are a "pull yourself by your own bootstraps" soteriology. "Grace" might be useful, but it's not really necessary/essential. Does grace even actually exist in Peterson's view, or is it really just a metaphor for efficient self-actualization? Peterson's combination of non-Christian myths/spiritualities with Christian spirituality often clash, and he's admittedly it on a number of occasions and areas of theology. For example, <a href="https://youtu.be/v52DkzGWlrQ" rel="nofollow">IN THIS VIDEO</a> [or a longer explanation <a href="https://youtu.be/soIyw8aOzdY" rel="nofollow">HERE</a>] Peterson admits that he had a hard time accepting Jesus' statement that "the meek shall inherit the earth" (Matt. 5:5 alluding to Ps. 37:11). He was convinced that that HAD to be wrong. So, after doing some word studies in the Biblical language(s) he concluded that the word "meek" used in that context originally meant something like, "those who have weapons and know how to use them but still keep them sheathed will inherit the earth". Even assuming that his interpretation were correct [maybe it is], it seems that he takes his assumptions and preformed views as prior to the teaching and authority of Scripture instead of the reverse. Like all myths, he treats Scripture like a wax nose.<br />CONT.ANNOYED PINOYhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00714774340084597206noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-59774500106659387602018-03-29T21:24:57.215-04:002018-03-29T21:24:57.215-04:00I've only seen a few of Peterson's videos ...I've only seen a few of Peterson's videos so he might have answers to my criticisms. One of the things I find problematic about his approach is how seemingly arbitrary his interpretations and applications of the myths are. They could theoretically be interpreted in many other ways. Including ways that are the exact opposite of how he interprets and applies them. I suppose a modern popular myth might be the antagonism between Batman and his archnemesis the Joker. If so, why assume you should be like a Bruce Wayne who attempts to harnesses his "dark" side in order to do good? Given atheism, why wouldn't being like Joker be the most rational, natural, and evolutionarily preferred position to emulate? Peterson seems to base his preferences on the consequences [a consequentialist theory of morality?]. But that would seem to presuppose that some consequences are really morally good and others evil. Without the assumption of REALLY being made in God's image and without a REAL personal God who is the standard of goodness, then man has no real transcendent worth or ground for objective morality. I don't see why we shouldn't think that what Peterson is doing is just taking fiction and treating as if it were real and living in a fantasy. Yet, at times Peterson seems to treat some of what he's saying as if it were real. Almost in a Platonic way. He even sometimes speaks of Christ and the Logos in an idealistic way. He's not exactly sure what to think in terms of metaphysics and ontology. But that doesn't seem to bother him too much because his focus seems to be on what practically and pragmatically works.<br /><br />CONT.ANNOYED PINOYhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00714774340084597206noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-30653214295100403512018-03-29T19:53:50.197-04:002018-03-29T19:53:50.197-04:00Great blogpost. Deserves to be circulated among Ch...Great blogpost. Deserves to be circulated among Christians on the internet.ANNOYED PINOYhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00714774340084597206noreply@blogger.com