tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post3796590626276484305..comments2024-03-27T17:15:37.606-04:00Comments on Triablogue: Hard truthsRyanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17809283662428917799noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-65388517538233430922015-11-03T13:29:31.628-05:002015-11-03T13:29:31.628-05:00Great article. It made me think that possibly, th...Great article. It made me think that possibly, the problem at the root of the "freewill defense" is pride. Accepting the "reformed" understanding of all of this forces us to come to terms with our own sin, and how, in the end, none of us are worthy of grace, and in our natural state, none of us are able to love God. Unless God gives us new life, we will never love Him.<br /><br />To the free-will theist, that is unacceptable. I wonder if it is because they think they never hated God?Jeffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06230576503431727315noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-16745406616020611832015-11-01T02:23:36.562-05:002015-11-01T02:23:36.562-05:00Not only that, but even Open Theism doesn't ab...Not only that, but even Open Theism doesn't absolve God here, based on LFW morality. If you are a strong, healthy adult and you see a small child with a knife begin to stab another small child with a knife, then you have given no offense to anyone's freedom by immediately rushing into the situation, disarming the child, and forcing him to not hurt the other child. In fact, refraining from action is considered morally reprehensible.<br /><br />Yet the ratio of our power to that of a child is a pittance compared to the ratio of God's power to human ability, even granting everything else needed for LFW. There is simply no good reason, under LFW, for God not to intervene the moment He observes evil taking place, even if we grant the most extreme position that God is unable to see the future or to accurately predict human behavior.Peter Pikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11792036365040378473noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-38861645080496895992015-11-01T00:52:11.570-04:002015-11-01T00:52:11.570-04:00Job calls those foolish women questions.
Then sa...Job calls those foolish women questions. <br /><br />Then said his wife unto him, Dost thou still retain thine integrity? curse God, and die [i.e. "what glory can come to a God who predestines Job to be attacked by Satan?/child molested/etc.."]. But he said unto her, Thou speakest as one of the foolish women speaketh. What? shall we receive good at the hand of God, and shall we not receive evil? In all this did not Job sin with his lips.[Job 2:9,10]<br /><br />It's funny that most of their arguments are ironically arguments against their own position. For example they charge Calvinists to be fatalists(out of ignorance as usual not understanding determinism) yet believe in predetermined events (Christ death, burial, earthly kingdom, etc..) which no matter what people choose those events will come to pass making their free will illusionary being a death blow. The only way the free will theist can have a not so blatantly failure of a worldview full of inconsistencies trying to champion free will, is to embrace open theism where God is is reduced to a superhuman often wrong in his predictions. Sadly many do go that far in order to keep their golden calf. Shizmoohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06369428734701432827noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-57032216409347400032015-10-31T21:52:12.024-04:002015-10-31T21:52:12.024-04:00More mind tricks from dirty, subversive Calvinists...More mind tricks from dirty, subversive Calvinists! Just ignore it, breathe deeply, and loudly recite John 3:16 (KJV of course) ten times with special stress on the word "whosoever"...then read Dave Hunt's blog to cap things off. Repeat as necessary until the cognitive dissonance fades.CRhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03231394164372721485noreply@blogger.com