tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post315533506254252296..comments2024-03-14T14:41:17.663-04:00Comments on Triablogue: Does Calvinism make God the "author of sin"?Ryanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17809283662428917799noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-4105596968610545352017-07-12T11:59:45.594-04:002017-07-12T11:59:45.594-04:00My post wasn't on theodicy in general, but a n...My post wasn't on theodicy in general, but a narrow point of terminology, to demonstrate that God's nonauthorship of sin is consistent with Calvinism, when "authorship" is defined according to historic theological usage. stevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16547070544928321788noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-27379925157436226352017-07-11T14:56:17.930-04:002017-07-11T14:56:17.930-04:00The term "allowing" can be used as a cop...The term "allowing" can be used as a cop out, and frequently is used that, by Arminians.<br /><br />But there is a proper use of "allowing", "permitting" from a Calvinist perspective.<br /><br />Louis Berkhof, Summary of Christian Doctrine, page 46:<br />"His decree with respect to sin is a permissive decree." <br /><br />Louis Berkhof, Systematic Theology, page 103:<br />"There are other things, however, which God included in His decree and thereby rendered certain, but which He did not decide to effectuate Himself, as the sinful acts of His rational creatures. The decree, in so far as it pertains to these acts [of sin] is generally called God's permissive decree. This name does not imply that the fruition of these acts is not certain to God, but simply that He permits them to come to pass by the free agency of His rational creatures. God assumes no responsibility for these sinful acts whatsoever." <br />Kenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17824685809003307918noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-71249293266886745342017-07-11T13:42:41.124-04:002017-07-11T13:42:41.124-04:00"Allowing" is a cop out.
"Oh, that..."Allowing" is a cop out.<br /><br />"Oh, that little girl who just got run over in the street? I didn't cause it. I just allowed it. I mean, I *could* have stepped out over there and picked her up and moved her to the side of the road without any risk at all to me. But she made her own decisions. Not my responsibility."Peter Pikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11792036365040378473noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-54375725000259720772017-07-11T09:48:19.838-04:002017-07-11T09:48:19.838-04:00God "ordaining sin" means God decided to...God "ordaining sin" means God decided to allow sin to happen.<br /><br />The angel who became Satan had free will - Ezekiel 28:13-17 (the spirit behind the king of Tyre)<br />"you were in Eden, the garden of God"<br />"until unrighteousness was found in you"<br />"o covering cherub" (v. 16)<br />"your heart was lifted up because of your beauty;<br />You corrupted your wisdom because of your splendor"<br /><br />Adam and Eve sinned - I like Augustine's comment:<br />"By the evil use of free will, Adam destroyed his own free will"<br />Enchiridion 30Kenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17824685809003307918noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-89228011856512962342017-07-10T14:54:01.562-04:002017-07-10T14:54:01.562-04:00Swell. God not the agent who performed the murder ...Swell. God not the agent who performed the murder of someone. He created this creature-thing that most certainly would murder that person and let it loose, and murder it did. Where does that get you?Jeff Dhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17768185709286407477noreply@blogger.com