tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post3134661745957725442..comments2024-03-27T17:15:37.606-04:00Comments on Triablogue: The Spirit of prophecyRyanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17809283662428917799noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-21147873411418926512014-06-19T09:53:46.893-04:002014-06-19T09:53:46.893-04:00That was your main point of the blog and I agree w...That was your main point of the blog and I agree with it. <br /><br />Unfortunately, some charismatic practices imply that with enough training one can almost twist the Holy Spirit's arm to give them a prophetic utterance.ANNOYED PINOYhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00714774340084597206noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-6057585874053539112014-06-18T22:51:02.616-04:002014-06-18T22:51:02.616-04:00The point is that a prophet can't will a revel...The point is that a prophet can't will a revelation into being. Rather, God wills to reveal himself to a prophet, at a time of God's own choosing. stevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16547070544928321788noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-28889611251767400732014-06-18T15:20:38.947-04:002014-06-18T15:20:38.947-04:00I believe the NT gift of prophecy is "inferio...I believe the NT gift of prophecy is "inferior" to the office and prophetic ability of OT prophets. Also that NT Christians should be able to exercise self-control regarding the charismatic gifts (as I cited Gal. 5:22-23; 2 Tim. 1:7). However, in the OT there were times when some of the OT prophets seemed to have been so possessed by the Spirit of the LORD that they couldn't help doing some of the things they did. For example, how God compelled Ezekiel to such an extent that he often said that the "hand of the LORD was upon him." In at least one instance it was "strongly" upon him.<br /><br />Jeremiah said, "But if I say, "I will not remember Him Or speak anymore in His name," <b>Then in my heart it becomes like a burning fire Shut up in my bones; And I am weary of holding it in, And I cannot endure it.</b>"- Jer. 20:9<br /><br />Or think of the Spirit of the LORD coming upon Saul unexpectedly and uncontrollably to prophesy.<br /><br />So, I wouldn't rule out completely the possibility that the Holy Spirit might take control of a Christian this side of Pentecost. Speaking anecdotally, it's not uncommon to hear many testimonies of Christians who started speaking in tongues for the first time unexpectedly either while praying normally, or even unexpectedly waking up and speaking tongues for the first time. Sometimes when they were cessationists or didn't even know anything about the gift of tongues.ANNOYED PINOYhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00714774340084597206noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-89247813781833619722014-06-18T14:55:29.886-04:002014-06-18T14:55:29.886-04:00Charismatics often interpret 1 Cor. 14:32 in the w...Charismatics often interpret 1 Cor. 14:32 in the way you've suggested here. By way of application, they will teach each other that when someone. say in the pews, believes he is receiving a revelation he shouldn't disturb and interrupt the flow of the worship service by standing up and sharing it unexpectedly. That one has the control ( Gal. 5:23) to reserve it for a more appropriate time. Part of the fruit of the Spirit is self-control (Gal. 5:23) and that Christians are given a/the spirit/Spirit of discipline (2 Tim. 1:7).<br /><br />However, I now prefer another interpretation of 1 Cor. 14:32 that I heard from Steve Gregg. After holding to the usual charismatic view for a long time something his wife said made him view verse 32 to mean that the prophetic utterances of a claimed prophet are subject to the judgment and evaluation of the other prophets in verse 29.<br /><br />Let two or three prophets speak, <b>and let the others pass judgment.</b>- 1 Cor. 14:29<br /><br />"Subject to the prophets" would then mean "subject to the evaluation of the prophets."ANNOYED PINOYhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00714774340084597206noreply@blogger.com