tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post2851911079044578326..comments2024-03-27T17:15:37.606-04:00Comments on Triablogue: More on Secular EthicsRyanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17809283662428917799noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-21371592209062253742008-12-22T13:35:00.000-05:002008-12-22T13:35:00.000-05:00"For example, say Peter believes [1]. All that is ...<I>"For example, say Peter believes [1]. All that is required for [1] to be true, is that Peter believes it. If he accurately reports his psychological states, then whatever he belies is right or wrong, is right or wrong, just in case he believes that it is. So, <B>subjectivism entails infallibalism</B>. But that seems clearly false."</I><BR/><BR/>It's interesting that many of the people who commit this error would deny the infallibility of the Bible based on apparently objective (albeit otherwise fallacious) arguments.Jim Pembertonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01446388434272680014noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-83056250857874079052008-12-21T17:08:00.000-05:002008-12-21T17:08:00.000-05:00Perhaps the memes are really just me.Perhaps the memes are really just me.Vytautashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10563655929016752682noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-70847515188711148222008-12-21T03:31:00.000-05:002008-12-21T03:31:00.000-05:00that should have been "unbelievers", of course. In...that should have been "unbelievers", of course. In my defense, the invisible memes which control my behavior forced me to make that typo.Semper Reformandahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14654695501552603164noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-82553700211771570522008-12-20T19:33:00.000-05:002008-12-20T19:33:00.000-05:00Semper Reformanda: When commenting on the God of t...Semper Reformanda: When commenting on the God of the Old Testament, believers are very sure that He has very definable, absolute (im)moral qualities, like being a bully, a jerk, a barbaric monster, and so on.<BR/><BR/>Vytautas: Could you give an example of a commentator on the Old Testament who is a believer and says that God is very immoral? This seems very rare to me.Vytautashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10563655929016752682noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-83227085492274184222008-12-20T16:18:00.000-05:002008-12-20T16:18:00.000-05:00"he said the blogs I look at, such as this one, go..."he said the blogs I look at, such as this one, go around sound reason."<BR/><BR/>That's ambiguous. Do we "go around" it on the left or on the right?Errorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10615233201833238198noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-32065080498315856542008-12-20T15:30:00.000-05:002008-12-20T15:30:00.000-05:00Oh I love secular ethics. I dropped a hammer on a...Oh I love secular ethics. I dropped a hammer on an atheist friend of mine on his problems, waiting for a reply. I then extended it to reason, because he said the blogs I look at, such as this one, "go around sound reason." If Darwinism and memes explain reason too...and he'd have to say so to be consistent, I believe...then he's in trouble there too.Seanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08697051930790491821noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-85375781618408351642008-12-20T13:42:00.000-05:002008-12-20T13:42:00.000-05:00"And all this bluster about a viable alternative t..."And all this bluster about a viable alternative to Christian ethics was just a bunch of hubbub, then."<BR/><BR/>This is really what it all boils down to. When commenting on the God of the Old Testament, believers are very sure that He has very definable, absolute (im)moral qualities, like being a bully, a jerk, a barbaric monster, and so on. But when pressed for their own position, their moral claims are very weak. All of a sudden, everything becomes relative - if we can even be certain of <I>that</I>, which is questionable.Semper Reformandahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14654695501552603164noreply@blogger.com