tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post2642892132474395795..comments2024-03-27T17:15:37.606-04:00Comments on Triablogue: The Wisdom of YouthRyanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17809283662428917799noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-47555969315274831032007-10-11T17:03:00.000-04:002007-10-11T17:03:00.000-04:00"Atheists like Caleb are trying to 'rest' Christia...<I>"Atheists like Caleb are trying to 'rest' Christianity/Christians' statements by 'wresting' them out of context."</I><BR/><BR/>Beautiful pun! I can't believe I missed it - I made the same mistake as Bernie when I read it.Jim Pembertonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01446388434272680014noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-74777975927940797332007-10-09T23:01:00.000-04:002007-10-09T23:01:00.000-04:00Besides, who wants to say with a straight face tha...<I>Besides, who wants to say with a straight face that Luther didn't use reason? I suppose his voluminous works are reason-free?</I><BR/><BR/>Indeed. It was scholastic theology that ticked Luther off. <BR/><BR/>But, a lot of Lutherans pick up the mantra, "We follow the Bible, not reason... you calvinists follow reason." <BR/><BR/>...to which I respond, "err..aren't you engaged in <I>reasoning</I> when you say this?James Swanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16136781934797867593noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-66301228778420697492007-10-09T22:41:00.000-04:002007-10-09T22:41:00.000-04:00I love it when the opposition's main point is your...I love it when the opposition's main point is your misuse of a homonym. That's right up there with spelling corrections...<BR/><BR/>And no one ever claimed Luther was one of history's greatest champions of reason. We just refute the meaning of the Luther quote attributed to him by the young debunker. The context dismantles the atheist's assertion.<BR/><BR/>Besides, who wants to say with a straight face that Luther didn't use reason? I suppose his voluminous works are reason-free?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-71565226223134209712007-10-09T14:58:00.000-04:002007-10-09T14:58:00.000-04:001. Luther is not my rule of faith.2. Since I'm Ref...1. Luther is not my rule of faith.<BR/><BR/>2. Since I'm Reformed I reject the Lutheran concept of double truth.<BR/><BR/>3. Bernie can't recognize a pun, so I'll spell it out.<BR/><BR/>Atheists like Caleb are trying to "rest" Christianity/Christians' statements by "wresting" them out of context.GeneMBridgeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10504383610477532374noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-4128884470010117682007-10-09T10:41:00.000-04:002007-10-09T10:41:00.000-04:00By the way, I have to point out that even if Luthe...By the way, I have to point out that even if Luther did say this exactly as the skeptics claim (i.e., even if we ignore the context for the sake of argument) we're still left with a big: so what?<BR/><BR/>Luther isn't God. Luther isn't the pope for Protestants. Luther's opinions don't carry any more weight than any other person's opinions.<BR/><BR/>So why would his quote be damaging to the Christian worldview, even if it wasn't being so egregiously taken out of context?Peter Pikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11792036365040378473noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-19128834283973309542007-10-09T08:04:00.000-04:002007-10-09T08:04:00.000-04:00I guess for your next trick, you'll next claim tha...I guess for your next trick, you'll next claim that Luther was one of history's greatest champions of reason... <BR/><BR/>Oh, by the way...<BR/><BR/>"It would help your case if you wouldn't rest quotes out of context."<BR/><BR/>Did you mean "wrest"?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-73871902135517975412007-10-09T01:26:00.000-04:002007-10-09T01:26:00.000-04:00The atheist forumlation of quote mining goes somet...The atheist forumlation of quote mining goes something like this:<BR/><BR/>Quoting Charles Darwin out of context = bad<BR/><BR/>Quoting Luther/Calvin out of context = sure, why notAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com