tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post2247602053496508658..comments2024-03-27T17:15:37.606-04:00Comments on Triablogue: Trinitarian salvationRyanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17809283662428917799noreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-30241681439801810322015-10-19T00:26:36.101-04:002015-10-19T00:26:36.101-04:00An entailment is not the same thing as a condition...An entailment is not the same thing as a condition. As I already explained, all the conditions of salvation are mutually entailing because God predestined that possession of any one condition includes possession of every one of these. <br /><br />That, however, doesn't mean that justification is the result of perseverance. By contrast, justification is a result of faith. <br /><br />It's not that all the conditions of salvation are directed related to each other. Rather, they are related to salvation. In that respect, you can't have one without the others. But that doesn't mean justification is dependent on perseverance, as if one must persevere in order to be justified. Perseverance isn't prior to justification. <br /><br />There is, though, a complex teleology to the elements of salvation. For instance, regeneration is necessary to sanctification; likewise, regeneration is necessary to faith, which is, in term, necessary to justification. So there are internal means/ends relations that can be interrelated in more than one way. stevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16547070544928321788noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-323743896019310742015-10-19T00:01:04.468-04:002015-10-19T00:01:04.468-04:00Given your previously stated position that “each c...Given your previously stated position that “each condition entails every other condition,” how would you respond to Irons’ remark [with regard to the covenant of grace] that, “they will need to explain to me why repentance, perseverance, and evangelical obedience ar not also conditions of justification”?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07805837580216753516noreply@blogger.com