tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post2184563924099965966..comments2024-03-14T14:41:17.663-04:00Comments on Triablogue: Revenge killingsRyanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17809283662428917799noreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-22779965470927421062016-11-30T16:29:47.659-05:002016-11-30T16:29:47.659-05:00I agree with these considerations but I think ther...I agree with these considerations but I think there is truth about the moral intuition problem...which is why Yahweh had to spend millenia pounding the idea of substitutionary sacrifice into the minds of his covenant people. Everything from the sacrifices of Abel to Abraham's ram to the Levitical cult. I suspect that even this did not make complete sense to the OT saints, but they nevertheless just took God at his word that this was how their sins could and must be remitted.<br /><br />Outside of these OT sacrifices there is no real good counterpart in our normal experience. The closest thing that makes sense to most is the idea of someone paying for the pecuniary debt of another. That motif is present in Scripture, and it is used frequently in Christian evangelism. But pecuniary debt is not moral guilt, and even in Scripture there is a general presumption that moral guilt and punishment cannot be transferred under normal circumstances (Ezekiel 18:20). So we should not be surprised that this feels counter-intuitive.<br /><br />Perhaps it is necessary to supplement this idea partly with the Christological considerations you alluded to (Christ's uniqueness) and with our doctrine of union with Christ (as our federal head His righteousness becomes credited to us and our guilt and punishment transferred to Him).David Gadboishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18375984671877016361noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-56401003280238679392016-11-29T19:12:38.237-05:002016-11-29T19:12:38.237-05:00great stuff!great stuff!ANNOYED PINOYhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00714774340084597206noreply@blogger.com