tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post1271584393717573562..comments2024-03-27T17:15:37.606-04:00Comments on Triablogue: A Reply To John Loftus On Chapter 4 Of The Christian DelusionRyanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17809283662428917799noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-5559519690780217502010-07-23T15:51:29.458-04:002010-07-23T15:51:29.458-04:00Steve,
I appreciate that. I guess I was just voic...<strong>Steve</strong>,<br /><br />I appreciate that. I guess I was just voicing how tiring some of this stuff can get (or tedious). This is why we're a "body" though and not just an "eye" or something. Glad you guys enjoy dealing with this; it is necessary, esp. for college students being bombarded with this crap (and who need a reasoned response and way to think this through).<br /><br />Good work!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-6848427489965467482010-07-23T12:07:24.574-04:002010-07-23T12:07:24.574-04:00As I said the other day, the appearance of TIF mad...As I said the other day, the appearance of TIF made my month.<br /><br />Our group is making to have it available at our book table in the Student Center, the atheists will be right across the walkway, when the semester starts up next month.<br /><br />Its great to have some well done material to respond to the Loftus Propaganda Mill.Morrisonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06137890891223067672noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-36513743183700005602010-07-23T08:00:52.562-04:002010-07-23T08:00:52.562-04:00EVANGELICALCALVINIST.COM SAID:
"Why do you g...EVANGELICALCALVINIST.COM SAID:<br /><br />"Why do you guys engage guys like Loftus? He's not a serious guy; I can see why there needs to be a response to someone like him --- because of his popular appeal --- but unfortunately it gives his sort a greater platform, which is his telos in life (finding purpose in a purposeless world)."<br /><br />In general, I think it's better to respond to objections than leaving them hanging out there unanswered.<br /><br />Whenever you respond to an objection, there's a danger of defection. But I don't think there's anything to lose, really. If someone's faith was going to fall apart the minute he became acquainted with the "new atheism," then his faith was always a house of cards. It was just a default faith, because that's all he knew. Frankly, it's more dangerous to go through life with an untested faith that will let you down at the last minute. <br /><br />In addition, there are Christians that lack the resources to respond to certain objections. If we have resources which they lack, then we should share what we have for their benefit.stevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16547070544928321788noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-55963098989335077092010-07-23T05:38:21.412-04:002010-07-23T05:38:21.412-04:00Over at Loftus' blog a person named Michael sa...Over at Loftus' blog a person named Michael said the following <br /><br />********<br />Michael said... <br /><br />In a previous post [http://debunkingchristianity.blogspot.com/2010/03/do-you-want-to-be-christian-apologist.html], John Loftus challenges ‘wannabe apologists’ to write a critique of his book. Well it appears that a ‘wannabe apologist’ has risen to the challenge. So what does John do? Contradict himself and agree with Ken Pulliam that these non-scholars are just wasting their time responding to the challenge he himself set! If the issues in your book are too complicated for non-scholars to understand then why are you marketing it towards a non-scholarly audience?<br /><br />I wasn’t going to read the Infidel Delusion but having seen how bad John’s response to it is I thought I’d give it a whirl. Having read the first couple of chapters it looks like you’ve done an excellent job in destroying The Christian Delusion. I can see why John is trying to put his readers off reading it!<br />********<br />http://debunkingchristianity.blogspot.com/2010/07/on-assessing-triablogues-review-of.html<br /><br />I found that hilarious.<br /><br />----<br /><br />I also noticed that some were referring to "The Infidel Delusion" as "ID" while at the same time referring to Loftus' book "The Christian Delusion" as "TCD". I think we all should agree to call the review "TID", other wise it'll confuse some people into thinking it's a reference to Intelligent Design (which if often referred to as "ID").<br /><br />Though, I suspect that there might be the intention (consciously or unconsciously) to attach the negative connotations which atheists have with Intelligent Design to the book review The Infidel Delusion.ANNOYED PINOYhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00714774340084597206noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-15075219630148073632010-07-23T00:27:20.160-04:002010-07-23T00:27:20.160-04:00I agree with that much. As I said, normally I'...I agree with that much. As I said, normally I'd think "Why bother?", but I think this particular incident is being handled splendidly. Just my view though.Crudehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04178390947423928444noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-55538875575812855272010-07-22T23:41:39.390-04:002010-07-22T23:41:39.390-04:00Crude,
Good point. It's just that these kind ...Crude,<br /><br />Good point. It's just that these kind of debates get so tiresome so times; repeated so often since at least the enlightenment. It's certainly a necessary evil to have to engage in this kind of stuff, but tiresome to me (I guess that's why there's guys like the Triabloguers).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-25530309876142828712010-07-22T23:03:53.033-04:002010-07-22T23:03:53.033-04:00EC,
I've had thoughts similar to yours, espec...EC,<br /><br />I've had thoughts similar to yours, especially given Loftus' track record in the honesty department (the whole thing with the fake blog alone should throw up warning signs to people.) I actually think the guys here made a good move - they responded to his book not only with deep, fierce criticisms, but freely available ones. They're reacting to his reactions right now, but in this case, every reaction John has just draws more attention to TID.<br /><br />In other words, who is feeding whose telos in this case? John tends to make blunders in situations like this.Crudehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04178390947423928444noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6789188.post-5479876986283034992010-07-22T22:55:15.094-04:002010-07-22T22:55:15.094-04:00Why do you guys engage guys like Loftus? He's ...Why do you guys engage guys like Loftus? He's not a serious guy; I can see why there needs to be a response to someone like him --- because of his popular appeal --- but unfortunately it gives his sort a greater platform, which is his <em>telos</em> in life (finding purpose in a purposeless world).<br /><br />I guess being an ostrich doesn't work all that great either; I just think tit-for-tat with Spongs and Loftus's can become an enormous waste of time though.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com